Comments on: Richard Hamilton returns, shoots a lot, shoots some more, game ends with loss http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 22 May 2013 17:03:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24064 Dan Feldman Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:51:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24064 <p>Fennis, completely agree with Patrick's assessment of the coaches.</p> <p>As far as McGrady over Hamilton, Kuester said guys had a fresh slate to show the right things to earn playing time. There's no doubt Hamilton did more poor things off the court throughout the season than McGrady did, but recently, who knows? Judging by McGrady's absence from the lineup, I'd say there's a good chance it's him.</p> Fennis, completely agree with Patrick’s assessment of the coaches.

As far as McGrady over Hamilton, Kuester said guys had a fresh slate to show the right things to earn playing time. There’s no doubt Hamilton did more poor things off the court throughout the season than McGrady did, but recently, who knows? Judging by McGrady’s absence from the lineup, I’d say there’s a good chance it’s him.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24063 Dan Feldman Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:47:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24063 <p>HJe wasn't benched for his play. He was benched, I think, because Dumars was the only GM who'd touch him this summer and he repaid that faith by boycotting Friday's shootaround.</p> HJe wasn’t benched for his play. He was benched, I think, because Dumars was the only GM who’d touch him this summer and he repaid that faith by boycotting Friday’s shootaround.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24062 Dan Feldman Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:45:50 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24062 <p>If he had pulled this stunt before the trade deadline, I bet they would have.</p> If he had pulled this stunt before the trade deadline, I bet they would have.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24050 Patrick Hayes Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:09:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24050 <p>Well, remember, Carlisle was not a proven coach when hired. He was an assistant and he came cheap. He just happened to pan out and be a good coach.</p> <p>Carlisle, Curry and Kuester were hired at times when the franchise was kind of in transition, so investing in a big money coach wasn't prudent. Saunders/Brown were hired when the team was viewed as a title contender, so investing in a great coach might have been the difference (and in Brown's case, I think it was the difference).</p> <p>I think the team sale has certainly impacted the amount Dumars can spend on a coach, but his history has always been to hire a cheap coach when the team isn't supposed to be that competitive, so I think that played into his last two hires.</p> Well, remember, Carlisle was not a proven coach when hired. He was an assistant and he came cheap. He just happened to pan out and be a good coach.

Carlisle, Curry and Kuester were hired at times when the franchise was kind of in transition, so investing in a big money coach wasn’t prudent. Saunders/Brown were hired when the team was viewed as a title contender, so investing in a great coach might have been the difference (and in Brown’s case, I think it was the difference).

I think the team sale has certainly impacted the amount Dumars can spend on a coach, but his history has always been to hire a cheap coach when the team isn’t supposed to be that competitive, so I think that played into his last two hires.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24049 Patrick Hayes Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:06:28 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24049 <p>I think it was a stretch to think T-Mac would come back anyway. If you follow him on Twitter, he's frequently complained about the weather here (he's a Florida guy), I believe he sill lives in Florida or Texas in the offseason (can't remember for sure) and he's also mentioned that he doesn't want to sign another 1-year deal.</p> <p>Dumars has to say he wants him and every player back b/c it's just what GMs do. I didn't take it that seriously when he said he wanted him around long-term.</p> I think it was a stretch to think T-Mac would come back anyway. If you follow him on Twitter, he’s frequently complained about the weather here (he’s a Florida guy), I believe he sill lives in Florida or Texas in the offseason (can’t remember for sure) and he’s also mentioned that he doesn’t want to sign another 1-year deal.

Dumars has to say he wants him and every player back b/c it’s just what GMs do. I didn’t take it that seriously when he said he wanted him around long-term.

]]> By: Jason http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24047 Jason Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:55:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24047 Yeah, you're right.. At some point, he has to realize that it wasn't his night, no matter how much he wanted to impress - after given another shot to play.. That's something he has to recognize, so that's a fair criticism.   What's your take on how the DNP's will affect T-Mac's decision this off-season? I can't see it being positive, and if Dumars is serious about wanting him back, he can't be overly happy about seeing him on the bench. Is that safe to assume? Yeah, you’re right.. At some point, he has to realize that it wasn’t his night, no matter how much he wanted to impress – after given another shot to play.. That’s something he has to recognize, so that’s a fair criticism.
 
What’s your take on how the DNP’s will affect T-Mac’s decision this off-season? I can’t see it being positive, and if Dumars is serious about wanting him back, he can’t be overly happy about seeing him on the bench. Is that safe to assume?

]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24046 Fennis Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:54:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24046 Rip over T-Mac? Is this a basketball decision, or Kuester folding to political pressure among the players? The only good coaching move this season was the elevation of T-Mac into the starting lineup. All of a sudden T-Mac is the guy who doesn't measure up in terms of attitude and practice performance? Kuester is the biggest b.s. artist I've seen since... Michael Curry. Come on, Joe. This coach-clown carousel is threatening the franchise. Does anyone else think we went cheap on the last two coaches because management didn't want to spend in the years leading up to the franchise sale. You can't get coaches cheaper than what we paid for Curry and Kuester. Maybe I'm being an optimist, but once this sale goes through I think we could be headed to greener coaching pastures. We went from studs -- Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, and Flip Saunders to super duds -- Curry and Kuester. Money must have something to do with it.   Rip over T-Mac? Is this a basketball decision, or Kuester folding to political pressure among the players? The only good coaching move this season was the elevation of T-Mac into the starting lineup. All of a sudden T-Mac is the guy who doesn’t measure up in terms of attitude and practice performance? Kuester is the biggest b.s. artist I’ve seen since… Michael Curry. Come on, Joe. This coach-clown carousel is threatening the franchise. Does anyone else think we went cheap on the last two coaches because management didn’t want to spend in the years leading up to the franchise sale. You can’t get coaches cheaper than what we paid for Curry and Kuester. Maybe I’m being an optimist, but once this sale goes through I think we could be headed to greener coaching pastures. We went from studs — Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, and Flip Saunders to super duds — Curry and Kuester. Money must have something to do with it.
 

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24045 Patrick Hayes Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:43:31 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24045 <p>I wouldn't dog Rip too much for his awful shooting if he didn't put up so many damn shots. An off night considering he hadn't played would be understandable. But at some point, maybe just pass up a few of those looks, you know?</p> I wouldn’t dog Rip too much for his awful shooting if he didn’t put up so many damn shots. An off night considering he hadn’t played would be understandable. But at some point, maybe just pass up a few of those looks, you know?

]]> By: Jason http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24044 Jason Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:16:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24044 Thank you!! At least someone recognizes that like it or not, Rip is going to be part of this team if he cannot be traded... And if you want any chance at a trade, you should probably keep him in basketball condition by playing him, it's not like we have a chance at the playoffs anyways, so what do we have to lose? Thank you!! At least someone recognizes that like it or not, Rip is going to be part of this team if he cannot be traded… And if you want any chance at a trade, you should probably keep him in basketball condition by playing him, it’s not like we have a chance at the playoffs anyways, so what do we have to lose?

]]> By: Jason http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/comment-page-1/#comment-24043 Jason Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:12:49 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/03/richard-hamilton-returns-shoots-a-lot-shoots-some-more-game-ends-with-loss/#comment-24043 I think it's safe to say alot of Rip's "public complaining" ahs to do with some other factors as well. First, Gordon wasn't getting those interviews.. He wasn't being asked the tough questions, because he wasn't in that position.  Gordon didn't go from being the focal point of the team, to being told he was no longer play..   So its tough to say Rip was complaining publicly, as if he chased down reporters and said "You gotta hear this!" I can guarantee he didn't want to have those conversations at all, but he'd go forward with them regardless.   Anyways, my point is that it's alot easier for Gordon, in this situation - to hide in the back, because he isn't the one who was stripped of his role.. (He's the one that was given waaaay too much money, for what he could ever bring to this team - so what in the world would he have to complain about??)   Also, lets not dog RIP too much on his awful shooting night. It's one night.. He hasn't played in WEEKS, surely he's going to be a little rusty... Now, at the same time - he's a professional basketball palyer who makes over $12 million dollars this season, he should be able to shoot better then that, i agree. BUT, lets not make too much of it..   I was just extremely excited to see RIP back on the court, it told me that he put his BS aside, and worked his ass off in practice.. AND, i commend Kuester for giving everyone the shot.. I don't get why people are having an issue with Kuester doing this, sure its a little late in the year for changes int eh rotation - BUT, i'm happy he's recognized that this might be the only way to calm the storm in piston land..   As far as the T-Mac DNP, I don't even know what to say..... I am, however happy because every day that he is kept on the bench, its the more disrespected he will feel, and will that much more ensure that he WILL NOT be back next year... (Paying him a *real contract would be asinine. )   I think it’s safe to say alot of Rip’s “public complaining” ahs to do with some other factors as well. First, Gordon wasn’t getting those interviews.. He wasn’t being asked the tough questions, because he wasn’t in that position.  Gordon didn’t go from being the focal point of the team, to being told he was no longer play..
 
So its tough to say Rip was complaining publicly, as if he chased down reporters and said “You gotta hear this!” I can guarantee he didn’t want to have those conversations at all, but he’d go forward with them regardless.
 
Anyways, my point is that it’s alot easier for Gordon, in this situation – to hide in the back, because he isn’t the one who was stripped of his role.. (He’s the one that was given waaaay too much money, for what he could ever bring to this team – so what in the world would he have to complain about??)
 
Also, lets not dog RIP too much on his awful shooting night. It’s one night.. He hasn’t played in WEEKS, surely he’s going to be a little rusty… Now, at the same time – he’s a professional basketball palyer who makes over $12 million dollars this season, he should be able to shoot better then that, i agree. BUT, lets not make too much of it..
 
I was just extremely excited to see RIP back on the court, it told me that he put his BS aside, and worked his ass off in practice.. AND, i commend Kuester for giving everyone the shot.. I don’t get why people are having an issue with Kuester doing this, sure its a little late in the year for changes int eh rotation – BUT, i’m happy he’s recognized that this might be the only way to calm the storm in piston land..
 
As far as the T-Mac DNP, I don’t even know what to say….. I am, however happy because every day that he is kept on the bench, its the more disrespected he will feel, and will that much more ensure that he WILL NOT be back next year… (Paying him a *real contract would be asinine. )
 

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