Comments on: Detroit Pistons Draft Dreams: Jeremy Tyler

By: asiabasketballupdate

asiabasketballupdate — Thu, 19 May 2011 15:36:27 +0000

Patrick,
I just saw this article, thanks for reading my blog and linking to it. I hope everyone has a chance to check out my latest post on Tyler. I look at the end of his season and try to figure out what his stats in Japan actually mean.
http://www.asiabasketballupdate.com/jeremy-tyler.html
I think you make the most important point, and that is maturity should not be confused with whether or not a young player wants to get better. Tyler showed a ton of improvement. He started hitting outside shots, extending out to about 18 feet. He also began to look more comfortable in the post, especially facing up to beat his man off the dribble.
I am excited to see how he tests out today at the Pre Draft Camp.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:07:04 +0000

@Steve:

Don't confuse maturity issues with lack of eagerness to work or get better. Plenty of immature players have worked hard and developed into good players.

I would worry about whether or not someone actually loves the game first and foremost. Tyler is 19 and his issues occurred when he was 17/18. You're supposed to be kind of immature at those ages.

I think there are ways to tell how serious he is about basketball, and if he passes those tests to the satisfaction of team executives, his upside is definitely worth a second round pick.

By: Steve K

Steve K — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 14:38:30 +0000

Not a major follower of the Japan league, so I can’t claim to ever actually see the kid play. With that said, PH raises some severe red flags. Specifically, the maturity factor.

Tom Kowalski was commenting the other day about football prospects, and he said the one thing that all successful prospects had in common (in his opinion) was a willingness and eagerness to study and work. Those that had no interest (Ryan Leaf) tended to fail.

The same is somewhat true in basketball… although talent alone takes you a bit further than in football. If a kid isn’t mature enough to put in the work, he’s going to fail 9 times out of 10. Obviously, Greg Monroe’s maturity level served him well this season. He battled through some tough rookie mistakes and folks calling him a bust in his first week. He worked hard and is now considered one of the best of his class.

If Jeremy Tyler still has maturity issues and can’t put in the work to develop a post-move to his left? That’s scary. No thanks. I’d rather the Pistons draft an unathletic 3pt sharpshooter and pray he develops into Matt Bonner.

By: TDP

TDP — Tue, 08 Mar 2011 12:30:59 +0000

DraftExpress has the kid listed as 6’9″ w/o shoes.

By: BIG MARV

BIG MARV — Mon, 07 Mar 2011 23:01:42 +0000

I say get the guy if he’s there and the first thing I will do is play him in the summer leauge and in the the D-leauge all season. I think detroit will be fine with jerebko and Monroe in the frontcourt next year and big ben and Charlie V coming off the bench. From the tape he is raw and hes got good talent but avg 8 points and 6 reb in a foregin leauge is not impressive at all and on top of that its real slow basketball overseas with alot of jump shooting and they all play Harvard style offense. Then with his attitude I dont know if he would work especially if detroit keeps kuester. Now if they go out and get Lambeer (like everybody wishes) then this guy will be a monster under hos toolage. But you must send him to the D-leauge a.s.a.p. unless he just has a hell of a summer leauge. I would draft him because it is hard to find a 6’11/7’0 center and he has good size reminds me of a poor man’s Andrew Bynum.