Comments on: The Pistons have only six players who respect their league and profession http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Wed, 19 Jun 2013 23:10:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: temporary hair chalk http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-140344 temporary hair chalk Wed, 10 Apr 2013 03:40:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-140344 Throughout this awesome design of things you actually get an A with regard to hard work. For now I will, no doubt subscribe to your point. Throughout this awesome design of things you actually get an A with regard to hard work. For now I will, no doubt subscribe to your point.

]]> By: Tim Thielke http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23793 Tim Thielke Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:03:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23793 If reports are true, and i really don't know whether they are about the verbal abuse that Kuester took from Hamilton without responding prior to removing him from the lineup, then yes, it would still be better if Hamilton was told why he was removed from the rotation. But it is not extremely necessary. Because he and everyone else knows it is for his terrible-example-setting case of insuboordination--especially give the fact that he is completely replaceable with a ton of other players so the Pistons typically don't need him. A lot of people recognized that the rotation would probably be better if one SG was completely removed from it. Then Hamilton behaves like that. Of course he was out. Kuester still should have told him. But in that case, not speaking privately beforehand becomes excusable. If reports are true, and i really don’t know whether they are about the verbal abuse that Kuester took from Hamilton without responding prior to removing him from the lineup, then yes, it would still be better if Hamilton was told why he was removed from the rotation. But it is not extremely necessary. Because he and everyone else knows it is for his terrible-example-setting case of insuboordination–especially give the fact that he is completely replaceable with a ton of other players so the Pistons typically don’t need him. A lot of people recognized that the rotation would probably be better if one SG was completely removed from it. Then Hamilton behaves like that. Of course he was out. Kuester still should have told him. But in that case, not speaking privately beforehand becomes excusable.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23721 Dan Feldman Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:18:48 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23721 <p>Eric, I can't think of a quicker way for Laimbeer, if he ever becomes an NBA coach, to lose a locker room than show his team his WNBA rings.</p> Eric, I can’t think of a quicker way for Laimbeer, if he ever becomes an NBA coach, to lose a locker room than show his team his WNBA rings.

]]> By: Adam http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23719 Adam Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:09:37 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23719 After seeing reports of Rip turning down the Cavs offer, I did make the assumption that all players look through the same economic lens.  It may be an unfair assumption for some players, but you've got to believe with all the "this is a business", "I've got to do what's best for me" and "I've got to feed my family" cliches that they thrown around, it can't be too far from the truth. I'll give the benefit of the doubt for the younger guys (Stuck and Daye) that they just made a poor decision.  The vets, though, have been through contract negotiations before.  They know about being pricked and prodded by GMs about injuries, character issues, work ethic questions, etc.  They've got to know that this stunt is going to hurt their pockets when looking for their next job. You may be right, Dan.  Maybe these guys just are just mad about minutes and rotations.  But I'm sure this isn't the first time they've come across a coach who they didn't agree with.  So why do this now?  Why with this coach? After seeing reports of Rip turning down the Cavs offer, I did make the assumption that all players look through the same economic lens.  It may be an unfair assumption for some players, but you’ve got to believe with all the “this is a business”, “I’ve got to do what’s best for me” and “I’ve got to feed my family” cliches that they thrown around, it can’t be too far from the truth.

I’ll give the benefit of the doubt for the younger guys (Stuck and Daye) that they just made a poor decision.  The vets, though, have been through contract negotiations before.  They know about being pricked and prodded by GMs about injuries, character issues, work ethic questions, etc.  They’ve got to know that this stunt is going to hurt their pockets when looking for their next job.

You may be right, Dan.  Maybe these guys just are just mad about minutes and rotations.  But I’m sure this isn’t the first time they’ve come across a coach who they didn’t agree with.  So why do this now?  Why with this coach?

]]> By: Eric http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23716 Eric Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:01:22 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23716 I feel Joe D needs to fire Kuester and take over as duties as coach, really I would try to get rid of all the players that protested this game, this is the the last straw because they have completely alienated this team from the fan base. Get a coach in the offseason they can respect, Bill Laimbeer possibly, I don't know who else they could get on the cheap.  He can show the players his rings, he won as a coach in the WNBA, he could win at all levels.  For one thing he will be a tough sonna of a gun, who will put his team in line, if not, they shouldn't be on this team anymore. I feel Joe D needs to fire Kuester and take over as duties as coach, really I would try to get rid of all the players that protested this game, this is the the last straw because they have completely alienated this team from the fan base.

Get a coach in the offseason they can respect, Bill Laimbeer possibly, I don’t know who else they could get on the cheap.  He can show the players his rings, he won as a coach in the WNBA, he could win at all levels.  For one thing he will be a tough sonna of a gun, who will put his team in line, if not, they shouldn’t be on this team anymore.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23711 Dan Feldman Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:46:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23711 <p> <div style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10px; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: #ffffff; margin: 8px;"> <p>Isaac, without knowing Kuester did to lead to this, how can you guarantee "this was not just a childish act of petulance from overpaid prima donnas"?</p> </div> </p>

Isaac, without knowing Kuester did to lead to this, how can you guarantee “this was not just a childish act of petulance from overpaid prima donnas”?

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23709 Dan Feldman Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:44:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23709 <p>One common misconception to clear up. For the Pistons to sign new players, even D-Leaguers, they'd have to waive players. Their roster is full at 15. Yes, inactive players count.</p> One common misconception to clear up. For the Pistons to sign new players, even D-Leaguers, they’d have to waive players. Their roster is full at 15. Yes, inactive players count.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23708 Dan Feldman Sat, 26 Feb 2011 19:42:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23708 <p>Adam, you're assuming everyone is acting rationally, a common mistake when viewing problems through the economic lens that you do. Maybe they're just mad about the minutes distribution and rotation indecision and made a poor choice.</p> Adam, you’re assuming everyone is acting rationally, a common mistake when viewing problems through the economic lens that you do. Maybe they’re just mad about the minutes distribution and rotation indecision and made a poor choice.

]]> By: Adam http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23695 Adam Sat, 26 Feb 2011 17:48:04 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23695 I must be missing something.  What do Prince, T-Mac, Stuck and Wilcox have to gain by participating in this player revolt?  All four are playing for new contracts for next season and beyond.  With this on their resume, it significantly damages their value in the eyes of their next team. So again, what do these players have to gain by doing this?  Nothing.  Which leads me to believe that there's a lot more going on behind closed doors that's not being reported.  When players are willing to jepordize $$ ( and they're not willing to do that for anything;  See: Hamilton, Rip.), you have to believe that things have gotten SO bad between players/coaching staff that the players felt they needed to send a strong message to upper management and that this was the best way to do so.    I'm not condoning the revolt.  I think all players involved need to be fined and suspended by the team.  This was exactly the wrong way to handle this.  You need to stay professional at all times and perfrom the job that you're being paid to do to the best of your ability. Q must have done something really terrible, beyond minutes distribution and rotation indecision. I must be missing something.  What do Prince, T-Mac, Stuck and Wilcox have to gain by participating in this player revolt?  All four are playing for new contracts for next season and beyond.  With this on their resume, it significantly damages their value in the eyes of their next team.

So again, what do these players have to gain by doing this?  Nothing.  Which leads me to believe that there’s a lot more going on behind closed doors that’s not being reported.  When players are willing to jepordize $$ ( and they’re not willing to do that for anything;  See: Hamilton, Rip.), you have to believe that things have gotten SO bad between players/coaching staff that the players felt they needed to send a strong message to upper management and that this was the best way to do so.   

I’m not condoning the revolt.  I think all players involved need to be fined and suspended by the team.  This was exactly the wrong way to handle this.  You need to stay professional at all times and perfrom the job that you’re being paid to do to the best of your ability.

Q must have done something really terrible, beyond minutes distribution and rotation indecision.

]]> By: Asshole that supports Republicans in Wisconson http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/the-pistons-have-only-six-players-who-respect-their-league-and-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-23687 Asshole that supports Republicans in Wisconson Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:40:05 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=5071#comment-23687 Watch out, with a plan like that, you might be in danger of also becoming an "asshole that supports Republicans in Wisconson". lol! Watch out, with a plan like that, you might be in danger of also becoming an “asshole that supports Republicans in Wisconson”. lol!

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