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		<title>By: Kaneda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaneda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t see why people are so excited about Daye... I just can&#039;t  see how he would turn out to be a better player than Tayshaun. The only  young players I wouldn&#039;t trade right now are Monroe and JJ. We might as  well try and use our tradeable assets to finally fix the mess our roster  is in. A pg and a low post threat are definitely more vital to the  team&#039;s success than Daye is or will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t see why people are so excited about Daye&#8230; I just can&#8217;t  see how he would turn out to be a better player than Tayshaun. The only  young players I wouldn&#8217;t trade right now are Monroe and JJ. We might as  well try and use our tradeable assets to finally fix the mess our roster  is in. A pg and a low post threat are definitely more vital to the  team&#8217;s success than Daye is or will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Backbone? He&#039;s been a very good role player. Yes, he was a key player in the Lakers series, yes, he was a key reason the team won a title, no it doesn&#039;t excuse he he sometimes goes about handling his problems with the organization.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And you haven&#039;t agreed with anything Joe Dumars has done in the last six years? That encompasses a lot of moves, and there have been some good ones in there -- drafting Monroe/Jerebko, signing Wallace/McGrady cheaply, getting out of the Nazr Mohammed contract, signing Antonio McDyess to name a few. Those all came within the last six years, remember.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Backbone? He&#8217;s been a very good role player. Yes, he was a key player in the Lakers series, yes, he was a key reason the team won a title, no it doesn&#8217;t excuse he he sometimes goes about handling his problems with the organization.</p>
<p>And you haven&#8217;t agreed with anything Joe Dumars has done in the last six years? That encompasses a lot of moves, and there have been some good ones in there &#8212; drafting Monroe/Jerebko, signing Wallace/McGrady cheaply, getting out of the Nazr Mohammed contract, signing Antonio McDyess to name a few. Those all came within the last six years, remember.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you serious people? This guy has been the backbone of this team for a long time now. Without Tay we don&#039;t beat the Lakers. We don&#039;t make consecutive  Eastern Conference Championship games. He wants things to change, he is a winner. So what he called out the organization, they are not doing a damn thing to change. I would be furious if I watched a championship team become one of the bottom of their conference because Joe Dumars hasn&#039;t done anything in the past 6 years I agree with. So how about we talk about the guy that actually deserves to be fired, instead of the guy who has played his heart out for this city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you serious people? This guy has been the backbone of this team for a long time now. Without Tay we don&#8217;t beat the Lakers. We don&#8217;t make consecutive  Eastern Conference Championship games. He wants things to change, he is a winner. So what he called out the organization, they are not doing a damn thing to change. I would be furious if I watched a championship team become one of the bottom of their conference because Joe Dumars hasn&#8217;t done anything in the past 6 years I agree with. So how about we talk about the guy that actually deserves to be fired, instead of the guy who has played his heart out for this city.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;and dallas would absolutely do this,&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OK, Marc Stein, what&#039;s your source on that. What makes Prince an infinitely better fit than some of the other wings they could pursue with that same package?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What if Rick Carlisle hates Prince, since he was fired in Detroit because he didn&#039;t get along with several of the players?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know you&#039;re schtick around here is to walk around all cocksure that you have all the answers for what this team should do, but to assume that any team would &quot;absolutely&quot; do any deal is a little ridiculous.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And honestly, what the hell is so great about that Dallas pick? I mean, it could be in the 28-30 range. Any idea how many players picked in that range fail to turn out? A hell of a lot do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And guess what ... even if you pick a dud, you have to pay him a guaranteed salary for at least two years. So yeah, best case scenario, the Pistons make a deal like this and find a gem late in the first round.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Worst case? You turn an expiring contract into $3 million or so in dead money over the next two years if that first rounder doesn&#039;t pan out, as the majority picked in that range don&#039;t.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and dallas would absolutely do this,&#8221;</p>
<p>OK, Marc Stein, what&#8217;s your source on that. What makes Prince an infinitely better fit than some of the other wings they could pursue with that same package?</p>
<p>What if Rick Carlisle hates Prince, since he was fired in Detroit because he didn&#8217;t get along with several of the players?</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;re schtick around here is to walk around all cocksure that you have all the answers for what this team should do, but to assume that any team would &#8220;absolutely&#8221; do any deal is a little ridiculous.</p>
<p>And honestly, what the hell is so great about that Dallas pick? I mean, it could be in the 28-30 range. Any idea how many players picked in that range fail to turn out? A hell of a lot do.</p>
<p>And guess what &#8230; even if you pick a dud, you have to pay him a guaranteed salary for at least two years. So yeah, best case scenario, the Pistons make a deal like this and find a gem late in the first round.</p>
<p>Worst case? You turn an expiring contract into $3 million or so in dead money over the next two years if that first rounder doesn&#8217;t pan out, as the majority picked in that range don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a difference between teams who would love to have him and teams that actually have the means and desire to make it happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I mean, Boston would love Prince. But could they really offer much that would interest the Pistons? Maybe Avery Bradley? A 1st round pick that will be in the 29-30 range, meaning you give a guaranteed salary to someone who might not be good enough to make your roster? Jermaine O&#039;Neal&#039;s bad contract? There&#039;s not a whole hell of a lot contending teams would give up for him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And non-contending teams? Yeah, there are several who would like to clear salary for Prince&#039;s expiring deal. But those salaries are usually for guys like Antawn Jamison or Elton Brand. Marginal players who are aging and have horrid contracts. Maybe they make the Pistons better short term, but they drastically add to the terrible long-term salary predicament.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I said, there will be some interest. But Hamilton and Prince are just not top of the line players, Hamilton especially. You&#039;re not going to get a haul for either one, and with several of the wings available right now -- Battier, Parker, Gallo, Courtney Lee and maybe even guys like Rudy Fernandez and Arron Afflalo, teams with that need have plenty of options to pursue. When you figure in both cost and production, there are clearly better options than Prince and Hamilton available. Doesn&#039;t mean nothing will happen, it just means I think they are down the list.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between teams who would love to have him and teams that actually have the means and desire to make it happen.</p>
<p>I mean, Boston would love Prince. But could they really offer much that would interest the Pistons? Maybe Avery Bradley? A 1st round pick that will be in the 29-30 range, meaning you give a guaranteed salary to someone who might not be good enough to make your roster? Jermaine O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s bad contract? There&#8217;s not a whole hell of a lot contending teams would give up for him.</p>
<p>And non-contending teams? Yeah, there are several who would like to clear salary for Prince&#8217;s expiring deal. But those salaries are usually for guys like Antawn Jamison or Elton Brand. Marginal players who are aging and have horrid contracts. Maybe they make the Pistons better short term, but they drastically add to the terrible long-term salary predicament.</p>
<p>As I said, there will be some interest. But Hamilton and Prince are just not top of the line players, Hamilton especially. You&#8217;re not going to get a haul for either one, and with several of the wings available right now &#8212; Battier, Parker, Gallo, Courtney Lee and maybe even guys like Rudy Fernandez and Arron Afflalo, teams with that need have plenty of options to pursue. When you figure in both cost and production, there are clearly better options than Prince and Hamilton available. Doesn&#8217;t mean nothing will happen, it just means I think they are down the list.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow. Not sure what to make of that comment, to be honest. What &quot;thugs&quot; out there demanded trades? Furthermore, what makes a NBA player a &quot;thug?&quot; That&#039;s a pretty loaded word to be thrown around like that so nonchalantly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Prince has been a productive player even though he pretty clearly hasn&#039;t wanted to be here for two years. But he&#039;s been far from a model citizen. It&#039;s his choice to not buy into whatever the team is doing, and as I said, I don&#039;t reallyblame him for being disenchanted. But to say that he&#039;s been &quot;too good a person&quot; to ask for a trade? Come on. He&#039;s clearly been begging for one. He has a poor attitude, he&#039;s played half-hearted at times and he&#039;s been aloof in the locker room from teammates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s an effing team captain. He&#039;s supposed to be above that stuff, and he hasn&#039;t been. It&#039;s not a matter of whether he wants to fight for that eight spot or not. His employers pay him a lot of money to reach the goals of the organization. So for him to openly say all hope is lost, yeah, that&#039;s not the move of someone who is a good employee and team captain. He&#039;s a solid player, terrible leader.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Not sure what to make of that comment, to be honest. What &#8220;thugs&#8221; out there demanded trades? Furthermore, what makes a NBA player a &#8220;thug?&#8221; That&#8217;s a pretty loaded word to be thrown around like that so nonchalantly.</p>
<p>Prince has been a productive player even though he pretty clearly hasn&#8217;t wanted to be here for two years. But he&#8217;s been far from a model citizen. It&#8217;s his choice to not buy into whatever the team is doing, and as I said, I don&#8217;t reallyblame him for being disenchanted. But to say that he&#8217;s been &#8220;too good a person&#8221; to ask for a trade? Come on. He&#8217;s clearly been begging for one. He has a poor attitude, he&#8217;s played half-hearted at times and he&#8217;s been aloof in the locker room from teammates.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s an effing team captain. He&#8217;s supposed to be above that stuff, and he hasn&#8217;t been. It&#8217;s not a matter of whether he wants to fight for that eight spot or not. His employers pay him a lot of money to reach the goals of the organization. So for him to openly say all hope is lost, yeah, that&#8217;s not the move of someone who is a good employee and team captain. He&#8217;s a solid player, terrible leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>your original opinion that keeping prince ever made any sense was objectively wrong. there was absolutely no advantage EVER to holding onto him for our race to the lottery when the bare minimum you could get was caron butler&#039;s expiring contract and a pick.
 
and dallas would absolutely do this, since holding onto caron burler&#039;s expiring deal is objectively less preferable than trading him for a highly productive player at a position of need, at the cost of a draft pick somewhere in the 20s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>your original opinion that keeping prince ever made any sense was objectively wrong. there was absolutely no advantage EVER to holding onto him for our race to the lottery when the bare minimum you could get was caron butler&#8217;s expiring contract and a pick.<br />
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and dallas would absolutely do this, since holding onto caron burler&#8217;s expiring deal is objectively less preferable than trading him for a highly productive player at a position of need, at the cost of a draft pick somewhere in the 20s.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sometimes an organization desperately needs a slap in the face. among other places.
 
this one&#039;s been in a VERY dangerous state of denial for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sometimes an organization desperately needs a slap in the face. among other places.<br />
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this one&#8217;s been in a VERY dangerous state of denial for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 16:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s an expiring deal, i&#039;d imagine there are a list of teams who would love to have him suit up on their sideline.
 
I&#039;ll give you Battier - but Tay as of late has shown to be more of an offensive threat then Battier, so i&#039;d say Prince is a better option.. Just my opinion though. i actually really like Battier - think he&#039;s one of the more stand up guys in the league..
 
But Wilson Chandler better then Prince? Sure, he has upside - and sure he probably WILL be better then Prince one day... BUT, were talking about playoff teams potentially trading for Prince. They SHOULD be seeking Tay for his playoff experience - which of course separates Tayshaun from anyone else available...
 
I know that the Pistons keep a tight lid on the organization, and not a whole lot of leeks slip out, but it seems that we&#039;ve heard almost nothing in regards to interested suitors for Tay or Rip, and it&#039;s tough to swallow as the trade deadline approaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s an expiring deal, i&#8217;d imagine there are a list of teams who would love to have him suit up on their sideline.<br />
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I&#8217;ll give you Battier &#8211; but Tay as of late has shown to be more of an offensive threat then Battier, so i&#8217;d say Prince is a better option.. Just my opinion though. i actually really like Battier &#8211; think he&#8217;s one of the more stand up guys in the league..<br />
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But Wilson Chandler better then Prince? Sure, he has upside &#8211; and sure he probably WILL be better then Prince one day&#8230; BUT, were talking about playoff teams potentially trading for Prince. They SHOULD be seeking Tay for his playoff experience &#8211; which of course separates Tayshaun from anyone else available&#8230;<br />
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I know that the Pistons keep a tight lid on the organization, and not a whole lot of leeks slip out, but it seems that we&#8217;ve heard almost nothing in regards to interested suitors for Tay or Rip, and it&#8217;s tough to swallow as the trade deadline approaches.</p>
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