Comments on: Is Greg Monroe really better than John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins? http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Mon, 20 May 2013 15:08:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Tim http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21765 Tim Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:44:37 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21765 I just don't get why people are so high on Daye. He's a decent player, but nothing incredible. I don't see him ever making an all-star team. And his game is not multidimensional enough. I just don’t get why people are so high on Daye. He’s a decent player, but nothing incredible. I don’t see him ever making an all-star team. And his game is not multidimensional enough.

]]> By: Tim http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21764 Tim Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:41:14 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21764 That's absurd. Of course Griffin should be able to win ROY. It's not that big an advantage to not play for a year. It makes a player rusty and is indicative of the potential for injury reccurence (see Oden). Finally, If he's not able to win it this year, when would Griffin be able to win ROY. That’s absurd. Of course Griffin should be able to win ROY. It’s not that big an advantage to not play for a year. It makes a player rusty and is indicative of the potential for injury reccurence (see Oden). Finally, If he’s not able to win it this year, when would Griffin be able to win ROY.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21718 Patrick Hayes Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:28:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21718 <p>I agree it would be worth trying to get Cousins, but rather than part with Daye, I'd first try and entice them by offering Prince and next year's No. 1 for Cousins and one of their bad contracts, either Udrih or Garcia.</p> <p>Cousins certainly has baggage, but I think he's more talented than any of this year's potential lottery players other than Kyrie Irving, and a Monroe-Cousins high post/low post combo could be amazing.</p> I agree it would be worth trying to get Cousins, but rather than part with Daye, I’d first try and entice them by offering Prince and next year’s No. 1 for Cousins and one of their bad contracts, either Udrih or Garcia.

Cousins certainly has baggage, but I think he’s more talented than any of this year’s potential lottery players other than Kyrie Irving, and a Monroe-Cousins high post/low post combo could be amazing.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21713 Ryan Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:20:06 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21713 Only two playes on the Stones I wouldn't part ways with for DMC are Jonas and Greg. Only two playes on the Stones I wouldn’t part ways with for DMC are Jonas and Greg.

]]> By: jgk281 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21700 jgk281 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:37:02 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21700 Cousins is an out of control maniac, but I'd trade Daye for him in a second. I'd include Stuckey as well, and pretty much anybody else they'd want aside from Monroe. We should offer up our #1 pick this year and Daye. For SAC, they get sort of a mulligan on last years draft, and a great young shooter to play off of Evans. For us, we can rebuild around the best young frontcourt in the league. With a foundation of Cousins and Monroe in the middle we would be set up front for the next 12 yrs. Cousins said he wanted to play here, and Joe was trying hard to trade for him even after the draft, supposedly. With all this dysfunction, I'd have to think Joe has been keeping an eye on the situation, and I hope he's still calling trying to make a deal. The relationship between Cousins and Evans doesnt look good, so its only logical to think they may need to move one of them, and considering Evans has been there longer and Cousins has been nothing but problems, I'd think they would be listening to offers. Cousins is an out of control maniac, but I’d trade Daye for him in a second. I’d include Stuckey as well, and pretty much anybody else they’d want aside from Monroe.

We should offer up our #1 pick this year and Daye. For SAC, they get sort of a mulligan on last years draft, and a great young shooter to play off of Evans. For us, we can rebuild around the best young frontcourt in the league. With a foundation of Cousins and Monroe in the middle we would be set up front for the next 12 yrs.

Cousins said he wanted to play here, and Joe was trying hard to trade for him even after the draft, supposedly. With all this dysfunction, I’d have to think Joe has been keeping an eye on the situation, and I hope he’s still calling trying to make a deal.

The relationship between Cousins and Evans doesnt look good, so its only logical to think they may need to move one of them, and considering Evans has been there longer and Cousins has been nothing but problems, I’d think they would be listening to offers.

]]> By: Tom Y. http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21695 Tom Y. Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:07:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21695 I agree with recent posters that Monroe is at least around Cousins' level, maybe a little better or worse, it's hard to tell. But I prefer Monroe - by far the most efficient shooting of the three, plus much lower TO's and lower PF's. Plus maturity and a great attitude. Also yeah, being around the 4th option compared to Cousins' 2nd obviously means he'll score less. Anyway with his attitude he's as sure a bet as you can have in the NBA to continue improving and helping the team, which is what we need and more than could be said for Cousins. Not that I'd mind having both... I agree with recent posters that Monroe is at least around Cousins’ level, maybe a little better or worse, it’s hard to tell. But I prefer Monroe – by far the most efficient shooting of the three, plus much lower TO’s and lower PF’s. Plus maturity and a great attitude. Also yeah, being around the 4th option compared to Cousins’ 2nd obviously means he’ll score less.
Anyway with his attitude he’s as sure a bet as you can have in the NBA to continue improving and helping the team, which is what we need and more than could be said for Cousins. Not that I’d mind having both…

]]> By: danny http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21684 danny Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:21:12 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21684 And I dont care about Cousins' upside, Id take Monroe over him any day of the week. He has a serious attitude problem. And Wall gloats way too much for just an average PG on a terrible team. And I dont care about Cousins’ upside, Id take Monroe over him any day of the week. He has a serious attitude problem. And Wall gloats way too much for just an average PG on a terrible team.

]]> By: danny http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21683 danny Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:18:30 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21683 Ive been the Pistons biggest critic, but I agree, and I think those stats further prove his point. Cousins, while providing great rebounding, is shooting a bad % for a big man. Wall, great distributor and good defender, is shooting a terrible %. Those facts, plus the fact that Monroe isnt getting the minutes he should, tells me Monroe is more impressive than these 2. When Monroe has played 40 minutes this year, hes pretty close (if not in-fact), too averaging a double-double. Hed probably be closer to 2 steals a game as-well, all while shooting over 53% from the floor, which also would be better if had more time. Ive been the Pistons biggest critic, but I agree, and I think those stats further prove his point. Cousins, while providing great rebounding, is shooting a bad % for a big man. Wall, great distributor and good defender, is shooting a terrible %. Those facts, plus the fact that Monroe isnt getting the minutes he should, tells me Monroe is more impressive than these 2. When Monroe has played 40 minutes this year, hes pretty close (if not in-fact), too averaging a double-double. Hed probably be closer to 2 steals a game as-well, all while shooting over 53% from the floor, which also would be better if had more time.

]]> By: Adam http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21670 Adam Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:00:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21670 Dan- Great comparison, but I'd like to see these three compared with their "Per 36" numbers as well. Good point by Fennis.  If Monroe were a #1 or #2 option like Wall and Cousins, his per game numbers would be very similar, IMO. Dan-

Great comparison, but I’d like to see these three compared with their “Per 36″ numbers as well.

Good point by Fennis.  If Monroe were a #1 or #2 option like Wall and Cousins, his per game numbers would be very similar, IMO.

]]> By: Fennis http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/02/is-greg-monroe-really-better-than-john-wall-and-demarcus-cousins/comment-page-1/#comment-21667 Fennis Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:52:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=4817#comment-21667 I think I'd have to ship Daye for Cousins. Love Daye-O, but you can't pass up a 12-year Cousins/Moose lineup given that quality bigs are so hard to find. (BTW, did anyone hear them play the "Daye-O" audio in Cleveland after Austin hit a bucket? Really weird. No wonder that team is utterly demoralized.)   Re the rankings: you have to also consider that Cousins is the #2 option on the Kings whereas Monroe is like the #4 option at best, and probably more like #7 if you include BG and CV coming off of the bench. The question is, what numbers would Monroe register if he had been on that Kings team from Day 1? I think I’d have to ship Daye for Cousins. Love Daye-O, but you can’t pass up a 12-year Cousins/Moose lineup given that quality bigs are so hard to find. (BTW, did anyone hear them play the “Daye-O” audio in Cleveland after Austin hit a bucket? Really weird. No wonder that team is utterly demoralized.)
 
Re the rankings: you have to also consider that Cousins is the #2 option on the Kings whereas Monroe is like the #4 option at best, and probably more like #7 if you include BG and CV coming off of the bench. The question is, what numbers would Monroe register if he had been on that Kings team from Day 1?

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