Comments on: Tayshaun Prince on John Kuester’s decision to bench Richard Hamilton for Pistons’ loss to Grizzlies: "Buffoonery. Do you all know what that means?" http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sat, 18 May 2013 11:47:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Fan who took off Pistons jersey post-Tayshaun Prince trade meets idol at … | Indiana News Feed http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-119513 Fan who took off Pistons jersey post-Tayshaun Prince trade meets idol at … | Indiana News Feed Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:13:39 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-119513 [...] publicly”), among other things. That’s not entirely true — you might recall Prince invoking the word “buffoonery” to describe embattled former Pistons coach John Kuester’s decision not to play shooting guard [...] [...] publicly”), among other things. That’s not entirely true — you might recall Prince invoking the word “buffoonery” to describe embattled former Pistons coach John Kuester’s decision not to play shooting guard [...]

]]> By: Pistons Still Looking for Big Man; A Look at Remaining Free Agents - Life On Dumars - A Detroit Pistons Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-38561 Pistons Still Looking for Big Man; A Look at Remaining Free Agents - Life On Dumars - A Detroit Pistons Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:29:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-38561 [...] guard of the future, waived a shooting guard of their past, re-signed a small forward who coined buffoonery, lost an athletic, no defense power forward to the Boston Celtics, re-signed another, younger [...] [...] guard of the future, waived a shooting guard of their past, re-signed a small forward who coined buffoonery, lost an athletic, no defense power forward to the Boston Celtics, re-signed another, younger [...]

]]> By: Top 100 NBA Players, Pt. I: Nos. 91-100 | New Lebron James Shoes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-33859 Top 100 NBA Players, Pt. I: Nos. 91-100 | New Lebron James Shoes Tue, 02 Aug 2011 08:51:34 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-33859 [...] scary. H&#1110&#1109 minutes and shots dropped amid the “buffoonery” &#1110n Detroit, though h&#1110&#1109 three-point percentage [...] [...] scary. H&#1110&#1109 minutes and shots dropped amid the “buffoonery” &#1110n Detroit, though h&#1110&#1109 three-point percentage [...]

]]> By: The Point Forward » Posts Top 100 NBA Players, Pt. I: Nos. 91-100 « http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-33832 The Point Forward » Posts Top 100 NBA Players, Pt. I: Nos. 91-100 « Mon, 01 Aug 2011 17:58:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-33832 [...] loss to the Celtics in 2009 remains strong and scary. His minutes and shots dropped amid the “buffoonery” in Detroit, though his three-point percentage rebounded last season into elite territory. When [...] [...] loss to the Celtics in 2009 remains strong and scary. His minutes and shots dropped amid the “buffoonery” in Detroit, though his three-point percentage rebounded last season into elite territory. When [...]

]]> By: jack http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-17415 jack Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:19:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-17415 McGrady was creating a ton of open looks for Austin in CHICAGO AND THE GAMES BEFORE. HE HAS ALLWAYS MADE AN EFFORT TO FIND HIM OFF THE PICK AND ROLL  OR AT THE 3PT LINE. Honestly i dont know where Tmac is freezing Daye out theory is coming from. I really dont. Also Prince told Kuester to keep Daye in the game a few weeks back because Austin ws hot. McGrady was creating a ton of open looks for Austin in CHICAGO AND THE GAMES BEFORE. HE HAS ALLWAYS MADE AN EFFORT TO FIND HIM OFF THE PICK AND ROLL  OR AT THE 3PT LINE. Honestly i dont know where Tmac is freezing Daye out theory is coming from. I really dont. Also Prince told Kuester to keep Daye in the game a few weeks back because Austin ws hot.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-17402 detroitpcb Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:35:31 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-17402 @hayes you are partially right. But Daye's lack of movement seems dictated by the coaching staff and the set playes that are being run. Daye mainly lingers on the weak side behind the three point line, but i do notice that he is constantly adjusting his position slightly to make sure he is in the right spot if the ball reverses or if a driver kicks it to him.  Daye does go down low to set baseline screens. He curls off them sometimes and sometimes pops out and then backdoors his man - with his hands up ready to catch the ball if it would be delivered - but he is usually ignored. Cv and Daye are buddies. Prince has an obvious dislike for Daye - i think just based on the fact that Daye is going to take his position and Prince thinks he has a lot of basketball left in him. But you can see that the other players are not looking for Daye. The sets are not being run for him and when someone drives they are not looking to kick it to him. Watch him off the ball carefully. Despite the lack of overt movement- daye is very intelligent about creating passing angles if someone wanted to get him the ball. Memphis is going to unload Randolph. They are not going to pay him. I have also seen rumors that they are going to unload OJ Mayo. They could trade him to the Knicks for another Randolph - then trade Zach to the Pistons for prince & gordon. Tehy would save money next summer when Tay comes off the books and be able to sign Gasol and for the rest of this season they would have a great bench - which has been their weakness. But to be honest - i have no idea what they are willing to trade Zach for. But the word is out that they are not going to pay him.  @hayes

you are partially right. But Daye’s lack of movement seems dictated by the coaching staff and the set playes that are being run. Daye mainly lingers on the weak side behind the three point line, but i do notice that he is constantly adjusting his position slightly to make sure he is in the right spot if the ball reverses or if a driver kicks it to him.  Daye does go down low to set baseline screens. He curls off them sometimes and sometimes pops out and then backdoors his man – with his hands up ready to catch the ball if it would be delivered – but he is usually ignored.

Cv and Daye are buddies. Prince has an obvious dislike for Daye – i think just based on the fact that Daye is going to take his position and Prince thinks he has a lot of basketball left in him. But you can see that the other players are not looking for Daye. The sets are not being run for him and when someone drives they are not looking to kick it to him. Watch him off the ball carefully. Despite the lack of overt movement- daye is very intelligent about creating passing angles if someone wanted to get him the ball.

Memphis is going to unload Randolph. They are not going to pay him. I have also seen rumors that they are going to unload OJ Mayo. They could trade him to the Knicks for another Randolph – then trade Zach to the Pistons for prince & gordon. Tehy would save money next summer when Tay comes off the books and be able to sign Gasol and for the rest of this season they would have a great bench – which has been their weakness. But to be honest – i have no idea what they are willing to trade Zach for. But the word is out that they are not going to pay him. 

]]> By: gmehl1977 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-17400 gmehl1977 Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:00:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-17400 What will be interesting is if the Rip trade falls through. If they alienate him enough which will obviously do the same to Prince which it has then this thing could get ugly (uglier) than it already is. Fun times. What will be interesting is if the Rip trade falls through. If they alienate him enough which will obviously do the same to Prince which it has then this thing could get ugly (uglier) than it already is. Fun times.

]]> By: jayg108 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-17397 jayg108 Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:41:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-17397 Prince and Rip probably did this same stuff with Iverson, but they had Sheed on their side in the locker room.   I hope Joe D sees their true trade value and sends them to Cleveland for <cite>" an old toothbrush" </cite>@<cite>gmehl1977:too funny </cite> Prince and Rip probably did this same stuff with Iverson, but they had Sheed on their side in the locker room.
 
I hope Joe D sees their true trade value and sends them to Cleveland for ” an old toothbrush” @gmehl1977:too funny

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-17382 Laser Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:06:29 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-17382 1) i love the idea of benching rip. or gordon. or whoever. absolutely love it. this team is fifty times better and actually makes *gasp* a bit of sense as long as they're not trying to cram three shooting guards into the mix. and moving stuckey off the ball? brilliant. it's a bold, exciting move. shortening the rotation to 9? another great idea. i would have loved a win, but the team still stinks. i might have started t-mac/gordon and brought stuckey/bynum off the bench with daye, but then i do like the shortened rotation. good teams have 3-4 players who log starters' minutes (33-35), a few who play significant backup minutes, a few who play spot minutes; not a team full of guys in the 20-25 range and two who play slightly over 30. they also know who's going to play, and some idea when they're going to get into the game. that's a fine place to start. and rip's as good a choice as any to cut from the rotation. it's pathetic that he also happens to be our highest paid player, a captain, and under contract for two more seasons, but this is where we're at. we gotta start somewhere. giant leap in the right direction last night.   2) prince and rip don't <em>HAVE </em>to do anything. prince can request a trade; he's movable, and joe's said he'd trade prince if he asked to be traded. and rip could ask for a buyout any time he wants to; the team would jump at the chance, assuming they can't ship him to new jersey. basketball is a business, and these guys have gotten rich as sh*t playing it. you sign a contract and you're someone else's property. you deal with what comes.   3) glad to see there's so much discord going on. i've been screaming from the rooftops how bad this team was constructed, and it's exciting to see things actually moving in one direction or another. kuester is useless; prince and rip have to go, and we need to get some picks or young talent for the former. this whole thing could be blown up and it wouldn't matter what replaced it, it would be a step in the right direction. anything but keeping this sorry team together and wondering endlessly why finding any chemistry is so darn elusive. 1) i love the idea of benching rip. or gordon. or whoever. absolutely love it. this team is fifty times better and actually makes *gasp* a bit of sense as long as they’re not trying to cram three shooting guards into the mix. and moving stuckey off the ball? brilliant. it’s a bold, exciting move. shortening the rotation to 9? another great idea. i would have loved a win, but the team still stinks. i might have started t-mac/gordon and brought stuckey/bynum off the bench with daye, but then i do like the shortened rotation. good teams have 3-4 players who log starters’ minutes (33-35), a few who play significant backup minutes, a few who play spot minutes; not a team full of guys in the 20-25 range and two who play slightly over 30. they also know who’s going to play, and some idea when they’re going to get into the game. that’s a fine place to start. and rip’s as good a choice as any to cut from the rotation. it’s pathetic that he also happens to be our highest paid player, a captain, and under contract for two more seasons, but this is where we’re at. we gotta start somewhere. giant leap in the right direction last night.
 
2) prince and rip don’t HAVE to do anything. prince can request a trade; he’s movable, and joe’s said he’d trade prince if he asked to be traded. and rip could ask for a buyout any time he wants to; the team would jump at the chance, assuming they can’t ship him to new jersey. basketball is a business, and these guys have gotten rich as sh*t playing it. you sign a contract and you’re someone else’s property. you deal with what comes.
 
3) glad to see there’s so much discord going on. i’ve been screaming from the rooftops how bad this team was constructed, and it’s exciting to see things actually moving in one direction or another. kuester is useless; prince and rip have to go, and we need to get some picks or young talent for the former. this whole thing could be blown up and it wouldn’t matter what replaced it, it would be a step in the right direction. anything but keeping this sorry team together and wondering endlessly why finding any chemistry is so darn elusive.

]]> By: nuetes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/comment-page-1/#comment-17381 nuetes Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:36:27 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2011/01/tayshaun-prince-on-john-kuesters-decision-to-bench-richard-hamilton-for-pistons-loss-to-grizzlies-buffoonery-do-you-all-know-what-that-means/#comment-17381 What to take away from this game...I missed half of it in class checking updates on the old telly, saw the 2nd half collapse though. Things basically fell apart when the bench came in, as predicted. The starters played quite a bit of minutes though I was surprised. 3 of the 5 played over 35 minutes, and Monroe played 30 due to foul trouble. Still left too many minutes for Gordon, Daye, Max, and CV (what a stellar defensive quartet there!) to be eaten alive by Randolph and Gay, as Dan pointed out.   Still, trying to piece together optimism seems tough. Rip didn't play, which would be a common thing if traded, and something a lot of people hope for. Rip not playing is a pretty messed up situation and didn't sit too well with Prince. This team is about to implode but I'm ignoring that for now. Gordon shot well (I'm going to refrain from ever saying Gordon 'played' well, he can only shoot well). We got the starting lineup we've wanted sans maybe Wallace for Wilcox, and they played decent while in the game together, but all of that wasn't enough. So now what? Try it again? Alienate Rip and Prince from the team some more? See how tired Mcgrady's legs can get? Give up? Blow it up? I don't know, but this season is not very fun.   What to take away from this game…I missed half of it in class checking updates on the old telly, saw the 2nd half collapse though. Things basically fell apart when the bench came in, as predicted. The starters played quite a bit of minutes though I was surprised. 3 of the 5 played over 35 minutes, and Monroe played 30 due to foul trouble. Still left too many minutes for Gordon, Daye, Max, and CV (what a stellar defensive quartet there!) to be eaten alive by Randolph and Gay, as Dan pointed out.
 
Still, trying to piece together optimism seems tough. Rip didn’t play, which would be a common thing if traded, and something a lot of people hope for. Rip not playing is a pretty messed up situation and didn’t sit too well with Prince. This team is about to implode but I’m ignoring that for now. Gordon shot well (I’m going to refrain from ever saying Gordon ‘played’ well, he can only shoot well). We got the starting lineup we’ve wanted sans maybe Wallace for Wilcox, and they played decent while in the game together, but all of that wasn’t enough. So now what? Try it again? Alienate Rip and Prince from the team some more? See how tired Mcgrady’s legs can get? Give up? Blow it up? I don’t know, but this season is not very fun.
 

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