Comments on: How would Troy Murphy and Johan Petro affect the Pistons’ rotation?

By: bg8

bg8 — Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:14:15 +0000

well if this game against the griz was any indication of life without rip, it doesn’t look like gordon gonna get more than 20-24 minutes a game. stuckey, tmac, and prince will probably get the majority of the minutes

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:30:32 +0000

Well said, Gmehl. Well said!

By: gmehl1977

gmehl1977 — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:47:00 +0000

@Zeiram
As i said earlier…lets not get too excited about this until it is a done deal. If Rip is not traded before the Feb deadline (to NJ) then we will be stuck with him and his crappy contract until it is finished or management will buy him out of the last year. Most players careers with teams don’t have happy endings these days because sport is just a business. Real fans will remember Rip, Big Ben, Chauncey, Tay and Sheed as a team of cast offs that bonded to become one of the best defensive teams the NBA has ever seen. They were a team that punched way above their weight but they didn’t care because they were a bunch of parts that worked perfectly together. I underline together because as soon as one of those parts was taken away (Big Ben) the team just wasn’t the same. Then slowly but surely more parts were taken/given/traded away (Larry, Chauncey, Memo, Rasheed). Unfortunately the last remaining pieces are still around lingering like old furniture that should of been given away a while ago (Rip, Tay). I think as much credit as Joe got for building the pistons empire he has to cop the blame for the slow demise of it as well.

I have said many a time that i will always love and appreciate what Rip, Big Ben, Chauncey, Tay and Sheed done by representing this team over that dominant stretch but it is time to move on. People forget that the team will always be here long after those players mentioned and that the team can move on gracefully and always look back fondly on those glory days…but that’s all they are now ‘glory days’. I will remember that team as a team that could score 85-90 points and still win by 10. Every time they went out they knew they would win but it was just a matter of how. They were that good together which is why it is so hard to see what has become of the team now.

By: Zeiram

Zeiram — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 00:22:19 +0000

@Patrick

Here is an idea for a post you or Dan should do. The legacy of the key players from the 2004 championship team. As a departure from Hamilton nears I am kind of wondering how he and the others will be remembered. It kind of seems to me that they all left (or will leave) in a way heroes of a franchise shouldn´t.
I mean Chauncey was traded for Iverson, Big Ben was let go and is now back as a cheap gap stop for center. Wallace left, Hamilton will be traded and everyone will be happy about that fact and Prince is probably next.
I never would have believed that in 04/05. So what do you think, how will these guys be remembered in Pistons lore and how will their relationship with the franchise be? Whose number will get retired and whose won´t?

By: Laser

Laser — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:54:42 +0000

20-24? no chance. certainly not at first. you don’t pay a guy that kind of money and make him the gem of your rebuilding free agent spending spree to play him 20 minutes. he’ll get a legitimate chance at starter’s minutes. bet on it.

By: bg8

bg8 — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:51:20 +0000

im not so sure gordon’s minute will increase once rip is traded. i could still see kuester playing gordon only in the 1st and 3rd. bg will play his first quarter, then at the start of the 2nd, its gonna be bynum, tmac, daye, and 2 bigs. at the end of the 2nd, its gonna be stuckey, tmac, prince, either daye and 1 big or 2 bigs. and it will probably be the same rotation in the second half too. so i won’t be surpraise if bg minutes continue to hover around 20-24 min/gm

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:40:41 +0000

I can agree with Laser here – the ONLY reason we are in this trade discussion is to rid ourselves of RIP’s contract, and of course that only happens with Murphy’s Expiring deal.

Assuming he’ll be looking for alot of money, he won’t be worth us spending the cap space we have available on him. We would be searching either for a dynamic scorer/rebounder (Randolph) or a strong Defensive Big..

Had Dumars has ANY interest in Murphy before, he would have approached the Nets early in the season, as he hasn’t been a part of their regular lineup all year long..

By: Laser

Laser — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:17:21 +0000

murphy’s not being retained. no matter what. if this deal gets pulled off, dumars is going to go after zach randolph in free agency. may require clearing more cap space, but between rip and tayshaun we’ll be close.

heck, dumars may part with villanueva to clear more space. but murphy’s not sticking around.

By: gmehl1977

gmehl1977 — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 22:36:37 +0000

Yeah and lets not all get too excited until the trade is done.

By: brgulker

brgulker — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:57:57 +0000

@ Patrick, that’s fair, but I do wonder if Villanueva is movable if Murphy is retained… Time will tell.