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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Vince:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you&#039;re right, my fault. Sacramento has the cap space to absorb that big a salary difference apparently. Just not sure they&#039;d want to use all of it on Gordon. They&#039;ve long been looking for a small forward though.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vince:</p>
<p>you&#8217;re right, my fault. Sacramento has the cap space to absorb that big a salary difference apparently. Just not sure they&#8217;d want to use all of it on Gordon. They&#8217;ve long been looking for a small forward though.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrick 

I get why NJ would want White, its just that I value him as of equal value as some of the guards that were taken much earlier, maybe I am overvaluing him but I can see he has alot to give, and I&#039;d be dissapointed to see him go, especially if he becomes a good player. 

And about the BG and Dajuan trade, everything works out fine on ESPN&#039;s trade machine, but yeah, I can see where it lacks, I still wouldn&#039;t mind seeing Thompson in a Pistons uniform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrick </p>
<p>I get why NJ would want White, its just that I value him as of equal value as some of the guards that were taken much earlier, maybe I am overvaluing him but I can see he has alot to give, and I&#8217;d be dissapointed to see him go, especially if he becomes a good player. </p>
<p>And about the BG and Dajuan trade, everything works out fine on ESPN&#8217;s trade machine, but yeah, I can see where it lacks, I still wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing Thompson in a Pistons uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Vince:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;we should send BG and DaJuan to Sacramento for Jason Thompson&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Won&#039;t work financially. Detroit would have to take another contract back in return so salaries match, even if the Kings were interested in something like that, which they probably wouldn&#039;t be since they haven&#039;t decided if Tyreke Evans is their future 1 or 2.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vince:</p>
<p>&#8220;we should send BG and DaJuan to Sacramento for Jason Thompson&#8221;</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t work financially. Detroit would have to take another contract back in return so salaries match, even if the Kings were interested in something like that, which they probably wouldn&#8217;t be since they haven&#8217;t decided if Tyreke Evans is their future 1 or 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Jacob:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;I guess the question is, “is it worth holding on to Rip and his contract just to have that draft pick?”&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes. Hamilton&#039;s contract is bad. But as we&#039;ve seen with Rashard Lewis, Gil, Turkoglu getting traded already this offseason, it&#039;s not impossible to rid yourself of a bad contract. Getting an expiring for Rip is huge, but the Pistons need you talent desperately right now. Hamilton makes the roster unbalanced and they&#039;ll probably never be competitive with both he and Gordon on the team, but it&#039;s not worth giving up a future asset and potential lottery pick just to get rid of him if they are not getting an asset (in the form of a pick or young player) back in return.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jacob:</p>
<p>&#8220;I guess the question is, “is it worth holding on to Rip and his contract just to have that draft pick?”&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. Hamilton&#8217;s contract is bad. But as we&#8217;ve seen with Rashard Lewis, Gil, Turkoglu getting traded already this offseason, it&#8217;s not impossible to rid yourself of a bad contract. Getting an expiring for Rip is huge, but the Pistons need you talent desperately right now. Hamilton makes the roster unbalanced and they&#8217;ll probably never be competitive with both he and Gordon on the team, but it&#8217;s not worth giving up a future asset and potential lottery pick just to get rid of him if they are not getting an asset (in the form of a pick or young player) back in return.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@nuetes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;This is really a so-so deal, but that’s about what to expect.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not if the Pistons also get a first rounder for taking Petro. I&#039;d do that in a second.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nuetes:</p>
<p>&#8220;This is really a so-so deal, but that’s about what to expect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not if the Pistons also get a first rounder for taking Petro. I&#8217;d do that in a second.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Laser:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;also i read chauncey would demand a buyout if traded from denver. but that doesn’t seem much like chauncey to me. who knows?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s very happy in Denver and wants to retire there and work for the team. Remember, McDyess asked for a buyout in Denver and he didn&#039;t seem like the type of guy who would do that either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Laser:</p>
<p>&#8220;also i read chauncey would demand a buyout if traded from denver. but that doesn’t seem much like chauncey to me. who knows?&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s very happy in Denver and wants to retire there and work for the team. Remember, McDyess asked for a buyout in Denver and he didn&#8217;t seem like the type of guy who would do that either.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Nick:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&quot;We can take Petro’s contract; its not that bad and he’s a young, decent player.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Petro&#039;s actually not decent. He&#039;s pretty bad. But his contract isn&#039;t so bad -- $3.5ish a year for a fourth or fifth big is about the same as Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox were paid to fill that same role.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick:</p>
<p>&#8220;We can take Petro’s contract; its not that bad and he’s a young, decent player.&#8221;</p>
<p>Petro&#8217;s actually not decent. He&#8217;s pretty bad. But his contract isn&#8217;t so bad &#8212; $3.5ish a year for a fourth or fifth big is about the same as Kwame Brown and Chris Wilcox were paid to fill that same role.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ Nelson and Vince:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with you to an extent -- White had first round talent and he&#039;s an intriguing prospect because of his athleticism. But at the end of the day, he fell out of the first round for a reason. He could turn into a good player, but it&#039;s a small price to pay for the flexibility moving Rip for an expiring deal will bring.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, as for Vince&#039;s point about rather sending Summers or Wilcox, Wilcox wouldn&#039;t work for money reasons and there&#039;s probably a reason NJ is asking for White over Summers -- more updside.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Nelson and Vince:</p>
<p>I agree with you to an extent &#8212; White had first round talent and he&#8217;s an intriguing prospect because of his athleticism. But at the end of the day, he fell out of the first round for a reason. He could turn into a good player, but it&#8217;s a small price to pay for the flexibility moving Rip for an expiring deal will bring.</p>
<p>Also, as for Vince&#8217;s point about rather sending Summers or Wilcox, Wilcox wouldn&#8217;t work for money reasons and there&#8217;s probably a reason NJ is asking for White over Summers &#8212; more updside.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually nevermind, aparently Joe doesn&#039;t want to take Petro or give up any picks at all ==&#039;&#039;

From ESPN:
&quot;Yet sources said one of the remaining potential snags is New Jersey&#039;s insistence that the Pistons absorb the contract of Petro.
The Pistons do not want to take back Petro, even though shedding Hamilton&#039;s contract in exchange for Murphy and the Nets center would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million.
Sources say Detroit&#039;s stance on Petro has prompted New Jersey to begin looking for a fourth team that might be willing to take on the 24-year-old big man.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually nevermind, aparently Joe doesn&#8217;t want to take Petro or give up any picks at all ==&#8221;</p>
<p>From ESPN:<br />
&#8220;Yet sources said one of the remaining potential snags is New Jersey&#8217;s insistence that the Pistons absorb the contract of Petro.<br />
The Pistons do not want to take back Petro, even though shedding Hamilton&#8217;s contract in exchange for Murphy and the Nets center would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million.<br />
Sources say Detroit&#8217;s stance on Petro has prompted New Jersey to begin looking for a fourth team that might be willing to take on the 24-year-old big man.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d honestly rather not see Terrico leave Detroit, after what I&#039;ve seen from him in college and summer league I think he has great potential going forward, I would rather we send DaJuan, Wilcox, Rip and a second round pick or our first round pick - lottery protected of course - instead. And honestly I value Rip more than BG right now, they&#039;re both playing terribly but Rip is at least more consistent, but getting Petro and Murphy is definitely an upgrade.

On another note if this trade doesn&#039;t go down, we should send BG and DaJuan to Sacramento for Jason Thompson, as well as Villanueva and Wilcox to the Nets for Murphy and Morrow, that would be my dream come true if that were to go down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d honestly rather not see Terrico leave Detroit, after what I&#8217;ve seen from him in college and summer league I think he has great potential going forward, I would rather we send DaJuan, Wilcox, Rip and a second round pick or our first round pick &#8211; lottery protected of course &#8211; instead. And honestly I value Rip more than BG right now, they&#8217;re both playing terribly but Rip is at least more consistent, but getting Petro and Murphy is definitely an upgrade.</p>
<p>On another note if this trade doesn&#8217;t go down, we should send BG and DaJuan to Sacramento for Jason Thompson, as well as Villanueva and Wilcox to the Nets for Murphy and Morrow, that would be my dream come true if that were to go down.</p>
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