Comments on: Greg Monroe’s third straight double-double a historic mark for a Pistons rookie, but he can’t compensate for Bulls’ Derrick Rose and Carlos Boozer

By: Laser

Laser — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 02:32:05 +0000

i dunno. i think as a second option and one of just a few guys taking jump shots (along with daye and sometimes villa), gordon could be good here. hypnotize stuckey into committing to drive-and-kicks, add some post presence and a proper point guard… i think he can be a contributor. i’m not THRILLED with the guy, but nobody looks good in our current “system” (if it can be so called). when we put together a collection of players that actually looks and plays like a team, i think he can be a valuable part of it.

it’s a shame that none of us can say for sure yet, considering we’re halfway through his second year and he hasn’t been given a proper chance to get comfortable and do his thing. this team is just such a mess. the only consistency we’ve had with rotations and guys’ roles is that they’re never consistent. ever.

there’s no way i’d write him off just yet. but it’s easy to get discouraged with anyone on this roster. give the guy a chance.

By: detroitpcb

detroitpcb — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:48:08 +0000

@nuetes

right on. i agree with everything you say.

@Feldman or Hayes

In the second half Austin Daye was looking for his shot several times before he ended up taking and missing those 4 shots (all of which were good looks by the way). What happened is that he did not get the ball when he was open. The Pistons stopped reversing the ball and T-Mac played a very poor floor game as you noted.

Daye is more than ready for an increased role. But the older players need to look for him more and it would be nice if the coaching staff drew up some plays for him.

By: nuetes

nuetes — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:43:33 +0000

See I just don’t think Gordon is very good. He has way too many deficiencies. Bad shot selection, too small, needs the ball in his hands, turns it over, commits too many bad fouls – it’s just too much to stomach to wait for those rare nights when he’s on fire. I don’t think were going to be able to win with him unless the rest of our roster is stacked, and it’s kind of hard to stack a roster with talent when your overpaying players like Gordon. This roster needs some major work. Our pay per production model would be all out of whack.

By: Laser

Laser — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:29:58 +0000

ha ha. amen!

also… i’ll give you gordon detractors this: it’s not always easy to figure out who’s who at any given moment in a game. certain players stand out by their physical appearance or the way they move, but it’s not always easy to tell. but whenever you see a guy jack up a quick, off-balance shot that looks terrible and usually is, it’s almost always ben gordon. i understand that: 1) sometimes they fall and he looks like a genius, 2) he’s a shooter so he’s going to shoot, 3) he’s in a bit of a tough spot because of this roster, and 4) he’d certainly be a lot better off playing alongside guys who can help him get better looks, rather than rodney “shoot it again” stuckey.

if we’re lucky enough to unload rip, i’m still FEROCIOUSLY unconfident that stuckey and gordon form an adequate backcourt, but i do think that the two of them could be 2/3 of an adequate backcourt as long as the other third is a starting caliber point guard.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:15:47 +0000

@cg:

Comment of the year. Give that man his trophy.

By: nuetes

nuetes — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:44:58 +0000

Yeah, again, two of our highest paid players happen to be our worst players. Our SG’s suck. They really do. I don’t know what more to say because even moral victories like Monroe’s 3rd double-double in a row are weighed down by the fact this team will suck as long as Rip and Gordon are on it. I still like Daye’s potential but he’s not a very active player. He had 14 points and 0′s across the board at one point. We have too many one-dimensional players. When Daye’s stroke is on it’s fun to watch though.

The Pistons don’t have the talent I’m sorry. The Bulls are infinitely more talented than the Pistons atm. And Noah didn’t even play. People are getting duped by the perception that the ability to sometimes score equates to talent.

By: cg

cg — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:50:44 +0000

…so about Monroe. Three double-doubles in a row is a good sign. Not being able to achieve separation between the soles of his shoes and the court is a bad sign. Why can’t he elevate? Anyone seen the episode of The Office where they try to make a Christmas card photo by jumping in the air at the same time? Greg ‘Phyllis’ Monroe.

By: jack

jack — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 15:13:08 +0000

I never said that talent is useless, i said an somewhat inferior or a less talented team can compete with a more talented team if all things go their way and if they hustle the other team. I feel the Pistons talent is’nt that far off that they should be this bad.

I feel if they compete on most night and things go their way, they can be competitive on most nights against almost the entier league. Boston game was an perfect exampel.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:46:52 +0000

@jack:

"Talent is overrated. It helps, but if a team has the burning desire to sarafice and go through a brick wall for eachother, that can more then compensate for the lack of talent."

Sure, that can help. But talent is not overrated. When is the last time a team that was not talented won a title? Or made a playoff run?

I mean, is it possible that it wasn't that the Pistons quit attacking in the second half and more that the Bulls just started playing with more effort defensively and made a conscious effort to stop giving up points on the hustle plays?

By: Cliff

Cliff — Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:36:22 +0000

The problem with the pistons now: the starting lineup is TERRIBLE. this is obvious as you watch the beginning and the third quarters of games. ben gordon just simply useless… he just disrupts offence by pulling up shots and creating turnovers.
The bench on the other hand is always fantastic… greg monroe and t-mac have been phenomenal lately… to be honest i would much rather trade away bg instead of rip… rip is still a quality shooting guard who has a high basketball iq while bg just looks confused and dazed when he’s on the court.