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	<title>Comments on: Win or lose, Ben Wallace is the single greatest thing about the Detroit Pistons</title>
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		<title>By: Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slide = slice. but you probably already knew that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slide = slice. but you probably already knew that.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah i decided not to sweat any wins, because we&#039;re sure to get about thirty of them, and i don&#039;t want to unnecessarily piss myself off that many times in a six month span. but that was still a serious bummer, since no matter how you slide it those teams are going to do a better job losing games than we will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah i decided not to sweat any wins, because we&#8217;re sure to get about thirty of them, and i don&#8217;t want to unnecessarily piss myself off that many times in a six month span. but that was still a serious bummer, since no matter how you slide it those teams are going to do a better job losing games than we will.</p>
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		<title>By: nuetes</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuetes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 07:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha way ahead of ya laser. a couple weeks back i looked at that and all i could do was shake my head. i still think the pistons are going to win close to 30 games, and it&#039;s not even that they are any good. they are terrible, but so are a lot of other teams. of course it does help to lose to minny and toronto back to back. that did take some of my fears away. with so many bad teams there&#039;s going to be some good competition for the lottery. if the pistons rack up a bunch of wins in the last 6 games they could go from top 3 pick to sitting around 8-10 like that. there&#039;s going to be a ton of teams grouped together with terrible records.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha way ahead of ya laser. a couple weeks back i looked at that and all i could do was shake my head. i still think the pistons are going to win close to 30 games, and it&#8217;s not even that they are any good. they are terrible, but so are a lot of other teams. of course it does help to lose to minny and toronto back to back. that did take some of my fears away. with so many bad teams there&#8217;s going to be some good competition for the lottery. if the pistons rack up a bunch of wins in the last 6 games they could go from top 3 pick to sitting around 8-10 like that. there&#8217;s going to be a ton of teams grouped together with terrible records.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 04:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cripes, guys. i hate to be the bearer of bad news (i don&#039;t hate to be the bearer of bad news), but i just took a look at the upcoming schedule (gonna be a LOOOONG season, too) and just discovered that, of all things, our last six games are against bad eastern conference teams that figure to be well out of the playoff race (if they aren&#039;t already). now i&#039;m not going to accuse other teams of throwing meaningless games in order to better their lottery position (as if that&#039;s any kind of indictment anyways), but you can be damn sure those teams are going to be in &quot;looking ahead&quot; mode, a mode completely alien to joe dumars and the pistons, and playing their young players heavily to develop them and just plain see what they have. meanwhile the pistons, having absolutely kissed the season goodbye in early december (worst start through 25 games in franchise history with no real hope for significant long-term or short-term improvement) will bust their asses and ride their veterans to victories in at least another 4 out of the last 6. daye will hardly get off the bench, and the draft pick we end up with will be less promising than greg monroe. that&#039;s my early prediction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cripes, guys. i hate to be the bearer of bad news (i don&#8217;t hate to be the bearer of bad news), but i just took a look at the upcoming schedule (gonna be a LOOOONG season, too) and just discovered that, of all things, our last six games are against bad eastern conference teams that figure to be well out of the playoff race (if they aren&#8217;t already). now i&#8217;m not going to accuse other teams of throwing meaningless games in order to better their lottery position (as if that&#8217;s any kind of indictment anyways), but you can be damn sure those teams are going to be in &#8220;looking ahead&#8221; mode, a mode completely alien to joe dumars and the pistons, and playing their young players heavily to develop them and just plain see what they have. meanwhile the pistons, having absolutely kissed the season goodbye in early december (worst start through 25 games in franchise history with no real hope for significant long-term or short-term improvement) will bust their asses and ride their veterans to victories in at least another 4 out of the last 6. daye will hardly get off the bench, and the draft pick we end up with will be less promising than greg monroe. that&#8217;s my early prediction.</p>
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		<title>By: nuetes</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuetes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 01:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so mad I missed this game. Ben Wallace went off. Course I would have been upset all first half, and then tuned out by the 4th just to miss the best part.
 
Bargnani must be even worse than I thought, and I thought he was pretty bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so mad I missed this game. Ben Wallace went off. Course I would have been upset all first half, and then tuned out by the 4th just to miss the best part.<br />
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Bargnani must be even worse than I thought, and I thought he was pretty bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two things after the mot restful night sleep i&#039;ve had in ages...
 
1) not to be critical or take anything away from big ben, but i do think this was such a fascinating game with so many interesting twists and turns, such an amazing anomaly of a game... raps trailed by 19 at the half but were shooting 65%!! just turning it over (14 times) and we cashed in (for 29 points), we took 19 more shots than they did, stuckey had another phantom stat line in a loss against a team missing their starting PG, daye sat on the first half of this back-to back and bynum&#039;s minutes were limited, yet they combined for like 13 minutes last night in case you wanted to point to &quot;tired legs,&quot; big ben&#039;s triple to end the game (SWISHED it too)! so many storylines and nuances and twists and turns. the pistons truly hit rock bottom, and if they weren&#039;t under lame duck ownership, heads certainly would have rolled by now. this game was all you needed to see of the whole season. it was certainly worthy of its own full recap. just saying...
 
2) sad state of affairs, but the fact that you might be right about ben being the best thing about the pistons is as damning as it gets. he&#039;ll never be a part of a successful pistons team again, and i don&#039;t even know how much of an impact he can still have on the team&#039;s future, given the team&#039;s state of utter disrepair. so saying ben is the best thing about the team is utterly depressing, and yet i can&#039;t disagree. at least one piston is interested in entertaining people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two things after the mot restful night sleep i&#8217;ve had in ages&#8230;<br />
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1) not to be critical or take anything away from big ben, but i do think this was such a fascinating game with so many interesting twists and turns, such an amazing anomaly of a game&#8230; raps trailed by 19 at the half but were shooting 65%!! just turning it over (14 times) and we cashed in (for 29 points), we took 19 more shots than they did, stuckey had another phantom stat line in a loss against a team missing their starting PG, daye sat on the first half of this back-to back and bynum&#8217;s minutes were limited, yet they combined for like 13 minutes last night in case you wanted to point to &#8220;tired legs,&#8221; big ben&#8217;s triple to end the game (SWISHED it too)! so many storylines and nuances and twists and turns. the pistons truly hit rock bottom, and if they weren&#8217;t under lame duck ownership, heads certainly would have rolled by now. this game was all you needed to see of the whole season. it was certainly worthy of its own full recap. just saying&#8230;<br />
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2) sad state of affairs, but the fact that you might be right about ben being the best thing about the pistons is as damning as it gets. he&#8217;ll never be a part of a successful pistons team again, and i don&#8217;t even know how much of an impact he can still have on the team&#8217;s future, given the team&#8217;s state of utter disrepair. so saying ben is the best thing about the team is utterly depressing, and yet i can&#8217;t disagree. at least one piston is interested in entertaining people.</p>
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		<title>By: AtotheK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AtotheK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 18:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for writing something postive, if anybody in the organization this year is still around 2 seasons from now, i hope its 38 year old ben. i only get to see one game vs. indiana at the end of the season on nat&#039;l tv, i dont know who will be on the team, or if our young talent will be getting minutes, but i hope very selfishly that ben isnt dealt to a contender so i can see him play in a pistons uni again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for writing something postive, if anybody in the organization this year is still around 2 seasons from now, i hope its 38 year old ben. i only get to see one game vs. indiana at the end of the season on nat&#8217;l tv, i dont know who will be on the team, or if our young talent will be getting minutes, but i hope very selfishly that ben isnt dealt to a contender so i can see him play in a pistons uni again.</p>
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		<title>By: brgulker</title>
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		<dc:creator>brgulker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece. agreed on all fronts.</description>
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		<title>By: Slappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the first half of yesterday&#039;s game (before the implosion), and I too was overjoyed to see Ben out there making energy plays like the old days. He&#039;s the epitome of a person who maxed out the talents that he was given. Love seeing how hard he continues to work.
Definitely sad to see the direction the team is going in right now, but I&#039;ll still be here cheering for them. The Pistons have been down before, but I&#039;m confident they will find a way back. It may take some time, but I&#039;m not going anywhere. Until then, I can just start teaching my 3 year old daughter how to be a beast on defense like Ben Wallace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the first half of yesterday&#8217;s game (before the implosion), and I too was overjoyed to see Ben out there making energy plays like the old days. He&#8217;s the epitome of a person who maxed out the talents that he was given. Love seeing how hard he continues to work.<br />
Definitely sad to see the direction the team is going in right now, but I&#8217;ll still be here cheering for them. The Pistons have been down before, but I&#8217;m confident they will find a way back. It may take some time, but I&#8217;m not going anywhere. Until then, I can just start teaching my 3 year old daughter how to be a beast on defense like Ben Wallace.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 15:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan...last night was the night when my focus officially began to shift from maybe staying competitive this season to &quot;who will we get in the draft&quot; mode.  December 11...I don&#039;t know that I&#039;ve ever cashed in an NBA that early, don&#039;t get me wrong, I will still be watching, but I will be watching knowing that there are no meaningful games coming anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan&#8230;last night was the night when my focus officially began to shift from maybe staying competitive this season to &#8220;who will we get in the draft&#8221; mode.  December 11&#8230;I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;ve ever cashed in an NBA that early, don&#8217;t get me wrong, I will still be watching, but I will be watching knowing that there are no meaningful games coming anytime soon.</p>
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