Comments on: Joe Dumars: Pistons aren’t close to trading Richard Hamilton http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Fri, 24 May 2013 13:00:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Bob Liddle http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-18059 Bob Liddle Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:18:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-18059 We don't need to be concerned with trading RIP.  We need to find a way to get a true point guard.  Somebody that can penetrate and draw defenders and dish the ball.  McGrady is much more effective on the wing as a catch and shoot player.  Chauncey is a true point guard, contention follows him.  We need to find someone to fill his shoes.  So for the trade, look at Stuckey and Prince. We don’t need to be concerned with trading RIP.  We need to find a way to get a true point guard.  Somebody that can penetrate and draw defenders and dish the ball.  McGrady is much more effective on the wing as a catch and shoot player.  Chauncey is a true point guard, contention follows him.  We need to find someone to fill his shoes.  So for the trade, look at Stuckey and Prince.

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]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-12214 Dan Feldman Thu, 02 Dec 2010 10:09:53 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-12214 <p>Rodman, what makes you believe Stuckey can't get any better? I think each season has been the best season of his career every season. His improvement hasn't been as rapid as anyone would like, but he keeps getting better.</p> Rodman, what makes you believe Stuckey can’t get any better? I think each season has been the best season of his career every season. His improvement hasn’t been as rapid as anyone would like, but he keeps getting better.

]]> By: Jason http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-11833 Jason Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:46:36 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-11833 Guess i'm wrong here, i wasn't taking into account the near 4 million Stuck will be due, or the potential cap hold for the draft slot. Guess our only hope is that an ownership deal gets done, and the new brass is willing to spend some money to get fans back in the Palace. That, or some sort of trade finally gets made, which allows us to go after someone from that list.. But you have to at least admit, that's a sexy list of Free Agents. Anything we can do to bolster our front court at this point.   Guess i’m wrong here, i wasn’t taking into account the near 4 million Stuck will be due, or the potential cap hold for the draft slot. Guess our only hope is that an ownership deal gets done, and the new brass is willing to spend some money to get fans back in the Palace.
That, or some sort of trade finally gets made, which allows us to go after someone from that list.. But you have to at least admit, that’s a sexy list of Free Agents.
Anything we can do to bolster our front court at this point.
 

]]> By: Rodman4Life http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-11786 Rodman4Life Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:07:00 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-11786 My point is, Dallas really got Herschel Walker's value by dealing him to Minnesota for a gazillion draft picks and such.  Maybe we get the most for Stuckey by conning some other GM into his allure. My point is, Dallas really got Herschel Walker’s value by dealing him to Minnesota for a gazillion draft picks and such.  Maybe we get the most for Stuckey by conning some other GM into his allure.

]]> By: Rodman4Life http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-11781 Rodman4Life Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:05:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-11781 Does anyone get the feeling that Stuckey is some sort of NBA Herschel Walker?  This ultra talented/gifted athlete that doesn't live up to the hype?  As a GM, I can see where the allure is, but from what he has already shown, how does he get any better? Does anyone get the feeling that Stuckey is some sort of NBA Herschel Walker?  This ultra talented/gifted athlete that doesn’t live up to the hype?  As a GM, I can see where the allure is, but from what he has already shown, how does he get any better?

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-11764 Laser Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:49:47 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-11764 sorry, jason. you're dead wrong. we've got roughly the MLE to spend if we can't clear some more money off the books.   dead wrong about dumars and planning, too. those two parted ways around 2005. in fact, he and catastrophe celebrate their 25 month anniversary tomorrow! and that relationship shows no sign of slowing down. but keep on believing in him; i'm sure he knows exactly what he's doing. sorry, jason. you’re dead wrong. we’ve got roughly the MLE to spend if we can’t clear some more money off the books.
 
dead wrong about dumars and planning, too. those two parted ways around 2005. in fact, he and catastrophe celebrate their 25 month anniversary tomorrow! and that relationship shows no sign of slowing down. but keep on believing in him; i’m sure he knows exactly what he’s doing.

]]> By: nuetes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-11699 nuetes Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:55:55 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-11699 we would have $47.6 million if we let everyone go. stuckey, jerebko, summers, mcgrady, wilcox, and prince.   then lets say we bring back jerebko, we still have a cap hold for our draft slot, since it seems evident a lottery pick is in order that is somewhere between a $2-$5 million cap hold. so that puts us anywhere from $5-8 million to spend in free agency, or in other words right around the MLE, and thats if we let Stuckey walk. Big if. if we resign Stuckey we still have the MLE to spend. so really no difference between resigning stuckey and letting him walk as far as our ability to sign a player.   and this is all assuming the cap and MLE and everything remain unchanged and that the new CBA doesn't destroy this system or lower the cap significantly. we would have $47.6 million if we let everyone go. stuckey, jerebko, summers, mcgrady, wilcox, and prince.
 
then lets say we bring back jerebko, we still have a cap hold for our draft slot, since it seems evident a lottery pick is in order that is somewhere between a $2-$5 million cap hold. so that puts us anywhere from $5-8 million to spend in free agency, or in other words right around the MLE, and thats if we let Stuckey walk. Big if. if we resign Stuckey we still have the MLE to spend. so really no difference between resigning stuckey and letting him walk as far as our ability to sign a player.
 
and this is all assuming the cap and MLE and everything remain unchanged and that the new CBA doesn’t destroy this system or lower the cap significantly.

]]> By: Jason http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-11695 Jason Wed, 01 Dec 2010 17:43:36 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/12/joe-dumars-pistons-arent-close-to-trading-richard-hamilton/#comment-11695 Nuetes - Not sure where you are getting your math, but that's not the way i'm seeing it.. We're on the books for almost $66 million this year. Next year, we're only obligated to $48 million at this point. True, some of this difference will be paid to re-sign Jerebko, but if we DO NOT resign Prince, or Wilcox (Possibly even Mcgrady), it leaves us with enough left over to sign  a premiere Big. Randolph won't be getting a front loaded deal, and there are a number of other Free agent Big's to choose from -   Unrestricted- Nenad Kristic Joel Pryzbilla Samuel Dalembert Zach Randolph Kendrick Perkins Andreis Kirilenko Tyson Chandler Troy Murphy Nene HIlario Carl Landry Restricted- Greg Oden Yao Ming Jeff Green Marc Gasol Chris Kaman   i would think its safe to say we can pull off a deal with one of these players quite easily with the money we will have available. Nuetes – Not sure where you are getting your math, but that’s not the way i’m seeing it.. We’re on the books for almost $66 million this year. Next year, we’re only obligated to $48 million at this point.
True, some of this difference will be paid to re-sign Jerebko, but if we DO NOT resign Prince, or Wilcox (Possibly even Mcgrady), it leaves us with enough left over to sign  a premiere Big. Randolph won’t be getting a front loaded deal, and there are a number of other Free agent Big’s to choose from -
 
Unrestricted-
Nenad Kristic
Joel Pryzbilla
Samuel Dalembert
Zach Randolph
Kendrick Perkins
Andreis Kirilenko
Tyson Chandler
Troy Murphy
Nene HIlario
Carl Landry

Restricted-

Greg Oden
Yao Ming
Jeff Green
Marc Gasol
Chris Kaman
 
i would think its safe to say we can pull off a deal with one of these players quite easily with the money we will have available.

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