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]]> By: Rodman4Life http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11769 Rodman4Life Wed, 01 Dec 2010 19:56:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11769 @Laser welcome back to the world of insights.  Have to agree with most of what you said.  Against these good teams, we're gonna have to keep it close and then someone is going to get on fire for us to pull it out.  We did a great job on Dwight, but he actually showed maturity by not forcing anything on a tough night and trusting his teammates to get it done.  I love Ben, but we can only reasonably expect him to stop Dwight on a couple of possessions in a row or something.  If Dwight had really needed to "exert his will" last night, I think he would have eventually overpowered us.  It may have been closer and more ugly, but Orlando would have prevailed still. @Laser
welcome back to the world of insights.  Have to agree with most of what you said.  Against these good teams, we’re gonna have to keep it close and then someone is going to get on fire for us to pull it out.  We did a great job on Dwight, but he actually showed maturity by not forcing anything on a tough night and trusting his teammates to get it done.  I love Ben, but we can only reasonably expect him to stop Dwight on a couple of possessions in a row or something.  If Dwight had really needed to “exert his will” last night, I think he would have eventually overpowered us.  It may have been closer and more ugly, but Orlando would have prevailed still.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11671 Laser Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:58:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11671 on max/villa: one problem with this team is that we seem to be trying to make up for our shortcomings by matching up defensively, so max is in there to counter opposing bigs. only we're not good enough defensively for that to be a winning formula. max and ben are NOT a starting front court. they provide no upside whatsoever (and, heck, they combined for just 10 REB in 46 min, since max collected just one), they don't spread the floor or present offensive threats, and they're just "ok to good" defensively." it would be a different story if they were a force down low. we signed charlie, we know who he is; he's got his drawbacks, but his upside is significant, and i think you could make a stronger case that he's the best option. sometimes he's going to be a serious defensive liability, but sometimes he's going to win the starting PF battle by spreading the floor and hitting shots. jason maxiell is fighting an uphill battle every single night, because if he's not playing suffocating defense, he's useless. and good offense always beats good defense anyways, so let's give "good offense" a try. uh, for once. we're almost 1/4 through the season already, losing games at at a 67% clip, and villa hasn't gotten so much as a whiff at starting.   on stuckey: having stuckey come across the timeline and have prince initiate the offense might be the best "win now" strategy, but it's not sustainable. and we're not winning anyways! for one, we'd have to be out of our minds to retain prince (so, uh, there's a fair chance we do just that). second, we need to sh*t or get off the pot with this shooting guard situation. i was always angry when bynum played our garbage minutes at the end of games, because i felt like stuckey was the one who needed practice making plays. if he's our point guard, make him run the point so we can make an easier decision about which way to go. having him stick around but not have to learn the damn position he's supposed to play for the foreseeable future is the worst possible plan for the team's long-term prospects. plus we're not winning.   on daye: would have been a hell of a game for him to play. god knows lewis isn't a physical player, and i think daye's length would have bothered him. also i hate to see that kid sit. absolutely hate it.   on true shooting percentage: i misused the term earlier and did some research on it. it sounded unnecessarily complicated and seems objectively less useful than looking at points scored and shots attempted and doing the math. what use on earth would any sane person have for true shooting percentage? all these advanced stats are a waste of time, right? he took 10 shots, he scored 10 points. what more is there to know??   on ben wallace: with all due respect, could we just can it with this topic? his average is 25 minutes. he played 40 against the knicks and we lost. we're on the front end of a back-to-back. so he didn't play. it's a running theme. is this really worth discussing? no conspiracy theory here, they're just trying to keep him fresh. so their timing is bad, the pistons aren't being transparent, and the strategy is failing... what else is new? on max/villa: one problem with this team is that we seem to be trying to make up for our shortcomings by matching up defensively, so max is in there to counter opposing bigs. only we’re not good enough defensively for that to be a winning formula. max and ben are NOT a starting front court. they provide no upside whatsoever (and, heck, they combined for just 10 REB in 46 min, since max collected just one), they don’t spread the floor or present offensive threats, and they’re just “ok to good” defensively.” it would be a different story if they were a force down low. we signed charlie, we know who he is; he’s got his drawbacks, but his upside is significant, and i think you could make a stronger case that he’s the best option. sometimes he’s going to be a serious defensive liability, but sometimes he’s going to win the starting PF battle by spreading the floor and hitting shots. jason maxiell is fighting an uphill battle every single night, because if he’s not playing suffocating defense, he’s useless. and good offense always beats good defense anyways, so let’s give “good offense” a try. uh, for once. we’re almost 1/4 through the season already, losing games at at a 67% clip, and villa hasn’t gotten so much as a whiff at starting.
 
on stuckey: having stuckey come across the timeline and have prince initiate the offense might be the best “win now” strategy, but it’s not sustainable. and we’re not winning anyways! for one, we’d have to be out of our minds to retain prince (so, uh, there’s a fair chance we do just that). second, we need to sh*t or get off the pot with this shooting guard situation. i was always angry when bynum played our garbage minutes at the end of games, because i felt like stuckey was the one who needed practice making plays. if he’s our point guard, make him run the point so we can make an easier decision about which way to go. having him stick around but not have to learn the damn position he’s supposed to play for the foreseeable future is the worst possible plan for the team’s long-term prospects. plus we’re not winning.
 
on daye: would have been a hell of a game for him to play. god knows lewis isn’t a physical player, and i think daye’s length would have bothered him. also i hate to see that kid sit. absolutely hate it.
 
on true shooting percentage: i misused the term earlier and did some research on it. it sounded unnecessarily complicated and seems objectively less useful than looking at points scored and shots attempted and doing the math. what use on earth would any sane person have for true shooting percentage? all these advanced stats are a waste of time, right? he took 10 shots, he scored 10 points. what more is there to know??
 
on ben wallace: with all due respect, could we just can it with this topic? his average is 25 minutes. he played 40 against the knicks and we lost. we’re on the front end of a back-to-back. so he didn’t play. it’s a running theme. is this really worth discussing? no conspiracy theory here, they’re just trying to keep him fresh. so their timing is bad, the pistons aren’t being transparent, and the strategy is failing… what else is new?

]]> By: A Second Look at Magic/Pistons http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11532 A Second Look at Magic/Pistons Wed, 01 Dec 2010 14:03:18 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11532 [...] Dan Feldman of Piston Powered: “This was the Pistons’ best game for interior defense of the year. Wallace often kept Howard a few feet farther from the basket than he’d like to be and did so on his own. Monroe needed more help at times, but his relentless energy forced a couple steals and prevented Howard from getting comfortable.” [...] [...] Dan Feldman of Piston Powered: “This was the Pistons’ best game for interior defense of the year. Wallace often kept Howard a few feet farther from the basket than he’d like to be and did so on his own. Monroe needed more help at times, but his relentless energy forced a couple steals and prevented Howard from getting comfortable.” [...]

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11499 detroitpcb Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:07:19 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11499 If there ever was a player who deserved a fist year nomination and entrance to the Hall of Fame, it is Dennis Rodman and how about Greg Monroe? That block on the break was sweet. He has no hops which makes it hard for him to finish around the basket but he is athletic, he moves real well, has good anticipation, quick hands (good hands too - he catches well but needs to built strenght there too - he still gets stripped to easily) and he is showing me great heart. The kid is going to be a real nice player If there ever was a player who deserved a fist year nomination and entrance to the Hall of Fame, it is Dennis Rodman

and how about Greg Monroe? That block on the break was sweet. He has no hops which makes it hard for him to finish around the basket but he is athletic, he moves real well, has good anticipation, quick hands (good hands too – he catches well but needs to built strenght there too – he still gets stripped to easily) and he is showing me great heart. The kid is going to be a real nice player

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11490 detroitpcb Wed, 01 Dec 2010 12:53:32 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11490 don't know what you are talking about because Ben Gordon lost that game for the Pistons in the 4th quarter. First he took a bad shot on the right wing after T-Mac passed him the ball. Gordon held it and then settled. Then he turns the ball over on the fast break (which would have put the Pistons up 7) after T-Mac made a nice pass down the center of the court to him. Then he misses a wide open three off a good ball rotation. Meanwhile he gets caught sagging twice and his man hits two wide open threes. Then Gordon makes a difficult 2 from the right baseline. Then he gets called for an offensive foul. He just killed Detroit's chances. I have no idea why Q kept him in the game. I am probably alone in this but i would far rather see Austin Daye on the court in crunch time than either Rip or Ben Gordon. No one guarding him can bother his shot and i think the kid will be clutch. Q is the worst coach in the league. don’t know what you are talking about because Ben Gordon lost that game for the Pistons in the 4th quarter.

First he took a bad shot on the right wing after T-Mac passed him the ball. Gordon held it and then settled. Then he turns the ball over on the fast break (which would have put the Pistons up 7) after T-Mac made a nice pass down the center of the court to him. Then he misses a wide open three off a good ball rotation. Meanwhile he gets caught sagging twice and his man hits two wide open threes. Then Gordon makes a difficult 2 from the right baseline. Then he gets called for an offensive foul. He just killed Detroit’s chances. I have no idea why Q kept him in the game.

I am probably alone in this but i would far rather see Austin Daye on the court in crunch time than either Rip or Ben Gordon. No one guarding him can bother his shot and i think the kid will be clutch.

Q is the worst coach in the league.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11347 Laser Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:51:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11347 good call on the "fool's gold" stat. those are the only favorable stats that the pistons have, like bench points. or how we have decent turnover numbers, but that's easy when nobody makes plays; it's easy to win the TO battle in fantasy when you don't play any point guards. last year it was offensive boards. it's a joke. 3-point % is sort of a gray area, because it's kind of a neutral stat for reasons you stated; 3-pointers are still jump shots, so they're not necessarily "good" shots to take. "live by the three" and all that... points in the paint are much more reliable.   keith langlois once again wrote a piece about how the pistons really "let one get away." right. but apparently some people buy that BS, because one of the trainers at my gym was surprised they lost after leading for most of the game. talk about fool's gold. when it comes to the pistons playing a good team, no lead is safe with say 9 minutes left. and i'd say against a team like the magic, it's probably a coin flip if the pistons were up by say 20 with 6 minutes left. apparently the pistons are still awaiting their "signature win," but if that means a win against a consensus playoff team, it could be a LOOOOOONG wait.   go stones! in joe we trust! good call on the “fool’s gold” stat. those are the only favorable stats that the pistons have, like bench points. or how we have decent turnover numbers, but that’s easy when nobody makes plays; it’s easy to win the TO battle in fantasy when you don’t play any point guards. last year it was offensive boards. it’s a joke. 3-point % is sort of a gray area, because it’s kind of a neutral stat for reasons you stated; 3-pointers are still jump shots, so they’re not necessarily “good” shots to take. “live by the three” and all that… points in the paint are much more reliable.
 
keith langlois once again wrote a piece about how the pistons really “let one get away.” right. but apparently some people buy that BS, because one of the trainers at my gym was surprised they lost after leading for most of the game. talk about fool’s gold. when it comes to the pistons playing a good team, no lead is safe with say 9 minutes left. and i’d say against a team like the magic, it’s probably a coin flip if the pistons were up by say 20 with 6 minutes left. apparently the pistons are still awaiting their “signature win,” but if that means a win against a consensus playoff team, it could be a LOOOOOONG wait.
 
go stones! in joe we trust!

]]> By: Rodman4Life http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-11345 Rodman4Life Wed, 01 Dec 2010 04:39:12 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-limit-dwight-howard-but-magic-exploit-flaw-in-detroits-defense/#comment-11345 Good post, Dan.  That's exactly what I saw. Good post, Dan.  That’s exactly what I saw.

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