Comments on: Detroit Pistons’ knack of making games appear closer than they really are continues in loss to Los Angeles Lakers http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Mon, 20 May 2013 21:16:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Jeremy http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10889 Jeremy Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:49:50 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10889 Not to mention the fact that if they don't trade Tay this year they'll just lose him to unrestricted free agency next summer. Not to mention the fact that if they don’t trade Tay this year they’ll just lose him to unrestricted free agency next summer.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10878 detroitpcb Sat, 20 Nov 2010 02:33:37 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10878 laser - bynum has been coming in on his regular rotation. if he isn't playing well enough to stay on the floor - you now want to call it marginalized??? give me a break. he may still be hampered by that hammy but he has been playing like shit. I hope he gets it together. i like Will. But right now, the Pistons are at a big disadvantage at point guard when they take Stuckey out of the game. Tay has come up big for the Pistons as a go to scorer in several games. But he has mainly done it by pounding the ball on those iso's from the wing. He has also been beaten on defense a lot this year and he could be giving more help on the boards since we all know the Pistons need it. But he is still a good and effective player. it is mainly for the psychological health of the team that he needs to be moved. plus two of our best young players play his positon (daye & jj) and of course there is the tradable contract. if Joe doesn't maximize that opportunity, i will get on your fire Dumars bandwagon. laser – bynum has been coming in on his regular rotation. if he isn’t playing well enough to stay on the floor – you now want to call it marginalized??? give me a break. he may still be hampered by that hammy but he has been playing like shit. I hope he gets it together. i like Will. But right now, the Pistons are at a big disadvantage at point guard when they take Stuckey out of the game.

Tay has come up big for the Pistons as a go to scorer in several games. But he has mainly done it by pounding the ball on those iso’s from the wing. He has also been beaten on defense a lot this year and he could be giving more help on the boards since we all know the Pistons need it.

But he is still a good and effective player. it is mainly for the psychological health of the team that he needs to be moved. plus two of our best young players play his positon (daye & jj) and of course there is the tradable contract. if Joe doesn’t maximize that opportunity, i will get on your fire Dumars bandwagon.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10858 Laser Fri, 19 Nov 2010 19:50:35 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10858 agreed on bynum. and he's been marginalized WAAAY too much to hold his performance against him. what does he get to play? five minutes to start the second quarter, five minutes to start the fourth and scraps? there isn't much room for him to operate with in this backcourt and system. and he's obviously a bit hobbled.   also, tayshaun is decidedly not the problem here. he's been better than ok. that win at sacramento came down to tayshaun having a matchup advantage over francisco garcia and capitalizing on it with strong play and good decisions down the stretch. he's been fine. he needs to go, but not because he plays bad. agreed on bynum. and he’s been marginalized WAAAY too much to hold his performance against him. what does he get to play? five minutes to start the second quarter, five minutes to start the fourth and scraps? there isn’t much room for him to operate with in this backcourt and system. and he’s obviously a bit hobbled.
 
also, tayshaun is decidedly not the problem here. he’s been better than ok. that win at sacramento came down to tayshaun having a matchup advantage over francisco garcia and capitalizing on it with strong play and good decisions down the stretch. he’s been fine. he needs to go, but not because he plays bad.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10845 Jeremy Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:37:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10845 The problem with Bynum is that his effectiveness drops off sharply when he is injured and coming off an injury. I love watching him play when he's healthy but when he's not he loses the explosiveness that his game is based on. The problem with Bynum is that his effectiveness drops off sharply when he is injured and coming off an injury. I love watching him play when he’s healthy but when he’s not he loses the explosiveness that his game is based on.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10842 detroitpcb Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:55:57 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10842 Bynum has laid an egg in every game he has played so far this season. Stuckey is not the problem. Rip & Tay & the lack of a inside presence are the problem. Bynum has laid an egg in every game he has played so far this season.

Stuckey is not the problem. Rip & Tay & the lack of a inside presence are the problem.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10838 Laser Fri, 19 Nov 2010 06:47:44 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10838 why are we picking apart this one game? so bynum laid an egg. stuckey lays eggs for a living. stuckey is a big part of what's wrong with this team. why are we picking apart this one game? so bynum laid an egg. stuckey lays eggs for a living. stuckey is a big part of what’s wrong with this team.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10832 Jeremy Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:05:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10832 Relevant to the Stuckey discussion, from the latest mailbag: <strong> </strong> <strong>Odeh (Dearborn Heights, Mich.): Was there a reason Stuckey was sitting for the most part of Golden State’s 22-0 run? I don’t believe he was in any foul trouble and it was clear that point guard was our weakest position on the floor during that stretch.</strong> <strong> </strong> <strong>Langlois:</strong> Stuckey came out of the game with two fouls with 4:54 left in the first quarter with the Pistons ahead 19-18 after Monta Ellis made his free throws as a result of Stuckey’s foul. Will Bynum replaced him at point guard and played the rest of the quarter. Golden State led 34-21 after one, outscoring the Pistons 16-2 over the final 4:54. Ben Gordon and Tracy McGrady started the second quarter. Gordon picked up three quick fouls and Stuckey replaced him at 9:40 of the second with the Warriors leading 42-21. So, yeah, that was a disastrous seven-plus minutes that Stuckey sat out, the Pistons outscored 24-2. That’s a little earlier than Stuckey comes out – Kuester has been sending Bynum into the game with about three minutes left in the first quarter – but sitting out seven minutes isn’t an unusually long break for him. The Pistons have to be better than that when Stuckey sits. Relevant to the Stuckey discussion, from the latest mailbag:


Odeh (Dearborn Heights, Mich.): Was there a reason Stuckey was sitting for the most part of Golden State’s 22-0 run? I don’t believe he was in any foul trouble and it was clear that point guard was our weakest position on the floor during that stretch.



Langlois: Stuckey came out of the game with two fouls with 4:54 left in the first quarter with the Pistons ahead 19-18 after Monta Ellis made his free throws as a result of Stuckey’s foul. Will Bynum replaced him at point guard and played the rest of the quarter. Golden State led 34-21 after one, outscoring the Pistons 16-2 over the final 4:54. Ben Gordon and Tracy McGrady started the second quarter. Gordon picked up three quick fouls and Stuckey replaced him at 9:40 of the second with the Warriors leading 42-21. So, yeah, that was a disastrous seven-plus minutes that Stuckey sat out, the Pistons outscored 24-2. That’s a little earlier than Stuckey comes out – Kuester has been sending Bynum into the game with about three minutes left in the first quarter – but sitting out seven minutes isn’t an unusually long break for him. The Pistons have to be better than that when Stuckey sits.

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10825 detroitpcb Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:31:30 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10825 @patrick yes, we know how it turns out. Stuckey pushes the ball by himself. Now since Daye is willing to run the floor, is not a bad finisher in traffic because of his length and is a solid option for the kickout jumpshot if Rodney goes in the lane and looks to pass- why not have Ben or Rip inbound the ball so Daye can run with Stuckey. But no, Daye is the young player so he has to inbound the ball. Coaching. Q needs to be fired. It is a small thing, but there are 20 more like it that i can point out. Half of them have to do with Q being unwilling to challenge the vets and half of them have to do with Q not being a very smart coach. @patrick

yes, we know how it turns out. Stuckey pushes the ball by himself. Now since Daye is willing to run the floor, is not a bad finisher in traffic because of his length and is a solid option for the kickout jumpshot if Rodney goes in the lane and looks to pass- why not have Ben or Rip inbound the ball so Daye can run with Stuckey. But no, Daye is the young player so he has to inbound the ball. Coaching. Q needs to be fired. It is a small thing, but there are 20 more like it that i can point out. Half of them have to do with Q being unwilling to challenge the vets and half of them have to do with Q not being a very smart coach.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/11/pistons-knack-of-looking-games-look-closer-than-they-are-continues-in-loss-to-lakers/comment-page-1/#comment-10824 Jeremy Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:17:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3772#comment-10824 @Patrick   I also wouldn't say that defense on Kobe was "successful", but playing good defense on him doesn't necessarily equate to success. He got going early with some open transition shots, found his rhythm, and made more difficult, contested shots as the game went on. I didn't pay close enough attention to claim that Stuckey played good D on him the whole time, but I will say again I saw some nice defensive sequences from him.   I also noticed him making a number of contested transition shots that, in years past, he likely would have missed. I think that's a positive.   Also, while it's certainly true that a good point guard will make things easier for his teammates, you can't get an assist by yourself. He'll get his dimes if the roster ever evens out and the team develops some chemistry. And of course his assist rate is always going to be affected by how well his teammates are shooting.   It's too bad his off-season work on the jump shot, yet again, doesn't seem to have made much difference. @Patrick
 
I also wouldn’t say that defense on Kobe was “successful”, but playing good defense on him doesn’t necessarily equate to success. He got going early with some open transition shots, found his rhythm, and made more difficult, contested shots as the game went on. I didn’t pay close enough attention to claim that Stuckey played good D on him the whole time, but I will say again I saw some nice defensive sequences from him.
 
I also noticed him making a number of contested transition shots that, in years past, he likely would have missed. I think that’s a positive.
 
Also, while it’s certainly true that a good point guard will make things easier for his teammates, you can’t get an assist by yourself. He’ll get his dimes if the roster ever evens out and the team develops some chemistry. And of course his assist rate is always going to be affected by how well his teammates are shooting.
 
It’s too bad his off-season work on the jump shot, yet again, doesn’t seem to have made much difference.

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