Comments on: NBA Rookie of the Year: Why not Greg Monroe? http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sun, 19 May 2013 08:53:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8969 Laser Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:23:04 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8969 that should have read: "a bit misleading." normally i let my typos go, but that one was a big confusing. (<--- intentional typo joke. heh heh.) that should have read: “a bit misleading.” normally i let my typos go, but that one was a big confusing. (<— intentional typo joke. heh heh.)

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8968 Laser Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:21:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8968 does it? i mean, scoring is pretty much the "easiest" thing to do, and it would tend to be the most natural transition from lower level ball (NCAA, international ball, even high school) to the NBA. so that does make sense. but i don't think that's really THE determining factor. for instance, if john wall develops into one of the better PGs in the league but doesn't crack the top five in scoring, i think he probably still wins (unless griffin or cousins is straight-up dominant). so i think the scoring thing is a big misleading. rookies are naturally going to be better at scoring than some specialty like BS, AST, STL. and i don't think anyone ever won based on rebounding. but three of the last five were PGs, and i bet tyreke evans was the only scoring leader among them. does it? i mean, scoring is pretty much the “easiest” thing to do, and it would tend to be the most natural transition from lower level ball (NCAA, international ball, even high school) to the NBA. so that does make sense. but i don’t think that’s really THE determining factor. for instance, if john wall develops into one of the better PGs in the league but doesn’t crack the top five in scoring, i think he probably still wins (unless griffin or cousins is straight-up dominant). so i think the scoring thing is a big misleading. rookies are naturally going to be better at scoring than some specialty like BS, AST, STL. and i don’t think anyone ever won based on rebounding. but three of the last five were PGs, and i bet tyreke evans was the only scoring leader among them.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8951 Dan Feldman Wed, 20 Oct 2010 10:18:56 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8951 <p>Rookie of the Year typically goes to the top-scoring rookie. I'm not sure Monroe can realistically do that.</p> Rookie of the Year typically goes to the top-scoring rookie. I’m not sure Monroe can realistically do that.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8939 Laser Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:58:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8939 yeah that's pretty sick. "oh me oh my" indeed. (i lived in LA last year, and will be heading back there next year. jerry lawler has got to be the most ridiculous play-by-play announcer in league history.)   as for fantasy, i suppose you never know how the draft will unfold or who might need rebounds and some blocks and steals in the last round (and nothing else), but if the draft goes more-or-less according to plan, no piston gets drafted. keep in mind, we're talking about a league with 8 teams and 13 roster spots. stuckey's the highest rated piston, and he's only gotten picked in one of the drafts i've done.   i'm trying to come up with a few guys to target in the last two rounds. i suppose there's a chance i'll take a stab at daye. he's one of the sleeper guys i'm thinking about. he should be a major contributor to the team. monroe's another possibility, but quite a long shot. if he starts to break through he'll definitely get snatched up by somebody. but at the moment they're real backup plans. but it looks like there could be significant upside there. yeah that’s pretty sick. “oh me oh my” indeed. (i lived in LA last year, and will be heading back there next year. jerry lawler has got to be the most ridiculous play-by-play announcer in league history.)
 
as for fantasy, i suppose you never know how the draft will unfold or who might need rebounds and some blocks and steals in the last round (and nothing else), but if the draft goes more-or-less according to plan, no piston gets drafted. keep in mind, we’re talking about a league with 8 teams and 13 roster spots. stuckey’s the highest rated piston, and he’s only gotten picked in one of the drafts i’ve done.
 
i’m trying to come up with a few guys to target in the last two rounds. i suppose there’s a chance i’ll take a stab at daye. he’s one of the sleeper guys i’m thinking about. he should be a major contributor to the team. monroe’s another possibility, but quite a long shot. if he starts to break through he’ll definitely get snatched up by somebody. but at the moment they’re real backup plans. but it looks like there could be significant upside there.

]]> By: nuetes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8934 nuetes Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:21:46 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8934 People that don't think fantasy basketball equates to real life success are nuts. A fantasy basketball roster is not made up of scorers, because in fantasy you have to win multiple categories. i.e. gordon and villanueva are not fantasy players. It's made up of josh smith's. guys that contribute in multiple categories. That has to equate to real-life success. The Pistons not having any fantasy-worthy players to me is a knock on their lack of productive players, which correlates to real-life wins on the court.   I saw an espn mock where Griffin went in the 6th round though. Absurd.   This is a great analysis of Griffin complete with highlights. Must-view.   <a href="http://nbaplaybook.com/2010/10/14/checking-in-on-blake-griffin/" rel="nofollow">http://nbaplaybook.com/2010/10/14/checking-in-on-blake-griffin/</a> People that don’t think fantasy basketball equates to real life success are nuts. A fantasy basketball roster is not made up of scorers, because in fantasy you have to win multiple categories. i.e. gordon and villanueva are not fantasy players. It’s made up of josh smith’s. guys that contribute in multiple categories. That has to equate to real-life success. The Pistons not having any fantasy-worthy players to me is a knock on their lack of productive players, which correlates to real-life wins on the court.
 
I saw an espn mock where Griffin went in the 6th round though. Absurd.
 
This is a great analysis of Griffin complete with highlights. Must-view.
 
http://nbaplaybook.com/2010/10/14/checking-in-on-blake-griffin/

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8930 Patrick Hayes Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:34:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8930 @laser: This play alone is why Griffin should win it: http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/2010/10/19/heartbreak-blake/ The dude can do things athletically that only Dwight Howard can do among big men. But it is the Clippers, and Griffin did have a serious injury last year. Things just tend to go wrong with that team, although I'm hoping Griffin becomes a huge star and maybe in a couple years the Pistons are in a position to trade for him when the Clips have their inevitable fire sale. As for fantasy basketball, Ben Wallace should get picked. He's not the fantasy beast he used to be, but he'll still get a team rebounds, blocks and steals, which are all commodities, although his lack of scoring and poor free throw percentages lessen his fantasy value. A healthy Ben Gordon would also be picked. He'll get points and three-pointers. The other Pistons either fall into the "only help in one category" label (Stuckey and Hamilton will basically only get you points, for example) or they are good NBA players who do multiple things well, but don't have elite stats in any category, like Prince or Jerebko. I'd possibly try and get Daye and stash him though. His rebounding numbers have been pretty good, and if he qualifies as a power forward for fantasy purposes, which he should if he doesn't already, he could potentially get you points and three-pointers at that position. @laser:
This play alone is why Griffin should win it:
http://www.bothteamsplayedhard.net/2010/10/19/heartbreak-blake/
The dude can do things athletically that only Dwight Howard can do among big men. But it is the Clippers, and Griffin did have a serious injury last year. Things just tend to go wrong with that team, although I’m hoping Griffin becomes a huge star and maybe in a couple years the Pistons are in a position to trade for him when the Clips have their inevitable fire sale.
As for fantasy basketball, Ben Wallace should get picked. He’s not the fantasy beast he used to be, but he’ll still get a team rebounds, blocks and steals, which are all commodities, although his lack of scoring and poor free throw percentages lessen his fantasy value.
A healthy Ben Gordon would also be picked. He’ll get points and three-pointers. The other Pistons either fall into the “only help in one category” label (Stuckey and Hamilton will basically only get you points, for example) or they are good NBA players who do multiple things well, but don’t have elite stats in any category, like Prince or Jerebko.
I’d possibly try and get Daye and stash him though. His rebounding numbers have been pretty good, and if he qualifies as a power forward for fantasy purposes, which he should if he doesn’t already, he could potentially get you points and three-pointers at that position.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8926 Laser Tue, 19 Oct 2010 15:34:31 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8926 a-hyuk. and also if we could get lebron james and dwight howard and chris paul! then we'd be in business! sure is fun to blab on and on incessantly about players we CAN NOT HAVE. right? right??   also, to those of you who live in the real world: i just read a yahoo fantasy primer for my upcoming draft (never played fantasy basketball before, so i'm reading everything i can), and one of the guys in the yahoo friends and family league picked monroe as the dark horse if wall doesn't win. i think it's a little silly to write off blake griffin and demarcus cousins, but monroe's got at least one "expert-type" in his corner.   also, it appears in an eight team league with thirteen roster spots, precisely ZERO pistons figure to be drafted. i know fantasy value doesn't necessarily correlate to real-life performance, but still. and if anything, defense is what's left out, so maybe the pistons are even worse than their fantasy rankings... a-hyuk. and also if we could get lebron james and dwight howard and chris paul! then we’d be in business! sure is fun to blab on and on incessantly about players we CAN NOT HAVE. right? right??
 
also, to those of you who live in the real world: i just read a yahoo fantasy primer for my upcoming draft (never played fantasy basketball before, so i’m reading everything i can), and one of the guys in the yahoo friends and family league picked monroe as the dark horse if wall doesn’t win. i think it’s a little silly to write off blake griffin and demarcus cousins, but monroe’s got at least one “expert-type” in his corner.
 
also, it appears in an eight team league with thirteen roster spots, precisely ZERO pistons figure to be drafted. i know fantasy value doesn’t necessarily correlate to real-life performance, but still. and if anything, defense is what’s left out, so maybe the pistons are even worse than their fantasy rankings…

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8914 detroitpcb Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:57:11 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8914 Monroe is going to get minutes and two of the players picked have injury or conditioning issues (Griffen & Cousins) so Monroe has a chance for ROY. But he needs to get stonger (that shooting percentage will go up when he is stong enough to finish - those turnovers will go down when he can't be stripped of the ball so easily, maybe more rebound will come his way). I don't know that i would include him in a trade. I think he is going to be a perfect complimentary player - the Tay Prince of the new Pistons. now if we could get Cousins???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Monroe is going to get minutes and two of the players picked have injury or conditioning issues (Griffen & Cousins) so Monroe has a chance for ROY. But he needs to get stonger (that shooting percentage will go up when he is stong enough to finish – those turnovers will go down when he can’t be stripped of the ball so easily, maybe more rebound will come his way).

I don’t know that i would include him in a trade. I think he is going to be a perfect complimentary player – the Tay Prince of the new Pistons.

now if we could get Cousins???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8907 Laser Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:29:20 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8907 i dunno. i guess these people just like to go WAY outside the box. maybe because a safe prediction is no fun, but if gordon hayward explodes he'll look like a genius. that's my best guess. i dunno. i guess these people just like to go WAY outside the box. maybe because a safe prediction is no fun, but if gordon hayward explodes he’ll look like a genius. that’s my best guess.

]]> By: Patrick Hayes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/nba-rookie-of-the-year-why-not-greg-monroe/comment-page-1/#comment-8891 Patrick Hayes Tue, 19 Oct 2010 01:15:58 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3458#comment-8891 @laser: That is ridiculous. But considering a lot of others got votes, it's kind of crazy that Monroe didn't get at least one. Seriously ... Gordon Hayward? Who voted for him? @laser:
That is ridiculous. But considering a lot of others got votes, it’s kind of crazy that Monroe didn’t get at least one. Seriously … Gordon Hayward? Who voted for him?

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