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Detroit Pistons show next to nothing in preseason opening loss to Miami Heat

About seven minutes was enough to flip one of my long-held opinions around: Jonas Jerebko makes more sense as the team’s starting power forward than anyone else on the roster. Unfortunately, those seven minutes were apparently enough for Jerebko to injure both his Achilles and elbow on the same play and leave the game.

This isn’t a knock on Charlie Villanueva (more on him below), but the Pistons only real good stretch of basketball came in the opening seven minutes, when the starters played the Heat pretty tough, and the reason was the Jerebko/Tayshaun Prince combination gives Detroit a lot of versatility defensively. Obviously, both of those guys are not the most filled out bodies in the NBA, but they combine to do one thing exceedingly well: bother the hell out of the pick and roll that most every NBA team lives and dies with. They are quick, long-armed and versatile, and Jerebko even appears to be stronger, as Chris Bosh had a hard time backing him down in the post. There are certainly stronger PFs out there than Bosh, but getting backed down was a hole in Jerebko’s game last year, so if he can just battle a little more this year, he’ll become even more valuable.

I have to be honest: there was not much good to take away from this game. But I don’t want to overreact either. If the Pistons had opened the preseason against the Warriors or something and looked lackadaisical, it would’ve been no big deal because not many people would be watching. They just so happened to open against the greatest team in the history of paper champions, so there’s bound to be people who will fly off the deep end about what was basically a very typical preseason performance. Early season NBA basketball is really sloppy folks. Don’t worry too much yet.

But bad basketball doesn’t prevent me from doing some notes, so here you go:

Rodney Stuckey is not a playmaker: No one looked more unsure of himself than Rodney Stuckey, who was 0-for-5 and again looked tentative running the offense. His time on the court basically consisted of him walking the ball up, passing to a wing and disappearing from the offense. He did have five assists and just two turnovers, and I’ll admit, he made a few nice passes, but the more I watch Stuckey, the more I question his role on this team. He needs the ball to work for his own shot, but the problem is, Ben Gordon, Prince and Rip Hamilton all come up with better shots in iso situations than Stuckey does. I believe Will Bynum should win the starting point guard job, and if there is truly “open competition” at all spots this preseason, Stuckey really needs to elevate his game to keep that position. But hey, the halftime feature on his family was great.

The potential of the second unit: They didn’t play well, but I found myself thinking, “Man … this group could be fun to watch.”

Maybe that was a bit too optimistic, but the group of Gordon, Bynum, Tracy McGrady, Villanueva and Greg Monroe is at least intriguing. Offensively, between Bynum, McGrady and Monroe, they have a full point guard skillset, something the first unit can’t boast. They also have three guys (in theory … McGrady’s health isn’t a given) who can get their own shot, three guys who have range out to the three point line, five guys who are reasonably athletic and can move up and down the floor and five guys who all love to play offense. The Pistons first unit is definitely a halfcourt group, and this second unit can potentially (if unleashed by Kuester) be a change-of-pace run-and-gun group that can get points in a hurry and then turn the game back offer to the better defensive players in the starting lineup.

The Amir Johnson award goes to … Greg Monroe: I liked that Monroe was the first big off the bench and looks (for now) to be entrenched ahead of Jason Maxiell in the big man rotation. I didn’t like that he picked up two fouls within seconds of entering the game. Big men always foul too much, and Monroe at least closed the game reasonably well, but he did look a bit shocked by the speed of Heat big men Chris Bosh and Joel Anthony as well as the strength of Udonis Haslem. Monroe is going to help the Pistons this year, but hopefully fans don’t lose sight of the fact that it generally takes big men longer to adapt to the NBA game than it does young guards.

So … Austin Daye?: As was so often the case last season, Daye was kind of the forgotten man. And when he was finally put into the game in the second half, he did what he usually did last season: shoot the ball well and score points. There’s just no way he’s going to get minutes if everyone is healthy, but he is ready to be a NBA-level contributor. Is he too soft to play the kind of defense John Kuester wants? Perhaps. But there’s a simple way to fix that: stop drafting finesse players to fit into a defense-first system.

Villanueva the stopper: I’m going to pay close attention to Villanueva’s defense this preseason, as I did last season. Some people who lack brains use the lazy excuse that Villanueva simply doesn’t try on defense. That was not the case last season, and it wasn’t the case against the Heat. He’s not a good defender, but I would argue he almost puts in too much effort on defense — he often appears to be over-thinking everything rather than just reacting. There’s a meme out there that playing good defense is simply about effort. I disagree wholeheartedly. Defense is about intelligence, ability and instincts just as much as offense is. Yes, effort is needed because there’s a perception that guys don’t get as excited about playing it, but if it were only about effort, Villanueva would be on the all-defense team. His problems are he tends to react late and get caught in no-man’s land — perfect example against the Heat: he couldn’t decide whether to switch on a penetrating guard (I believe Arroyo) or stay with his man, Haslem. He kind of got caught in between and Arroyo kicked to Haslem who nailed a 12-foot jumper. Villanueva could’ve been in better position for sure, but it’s not like he wasn’t trying. He was trying to help a teammate who appeared to be beat.

He also made a nice play, stepping in front of a stampeding LeBron James and drawing what should’ve been a charge but was called a block because it’s LeBron James and he always gets that call. Villanueva is a work in progress. I don’t know if he’ll become serviceable on the defensive end, but anyone who watches closely can certainly see that he is trying very hard to be better at that end.

Terrico White has broken foot: That’s the word on the street. White wasn’t gonna play much this season, but still … a team with last season’s injury problems lost White and Jerebko in this game. And actually, Prince left the game for a bit too after getting elbowed in the head.


  • Oct 6, 20102:25 am
    by Laser


    my capsule thoughts:
    i took a lot from this game. preseason or not, this team is a joke. i’ll agree the only time the team looked REMOTELY coherent in any way was when that starting unit was in. this was a good illustration of what happens when you have a 12 man rotation, which we’re almost certain to have this year. better to have a manageable rotation where guys know their roles.
    rip, tayshaun, daye, gordon and monroe all looked good. and that’s it. everything else can be filed in the “bad” category. but rip reminded me what a bad acquisition gordon was, when you have such a reliable guy locked up who can give you 35 minutes every night. tayshaun was great in every way, and it’s a shame we can’t afford to keep him. here’s hoping he gets us a nice return before the deadline. gordon did a better job running the point than stuckey did and generally looked good, even if he was a deplorable signing. daye looked very ready, and made me almost as furious about the t-mac signing as t-mac did. monroe is going to be a good player, i like what i saw. he looked pretty comfortable on offense, and i’ll live with his defensive growing pains.
    now for the rest:
    stuckey- just awful. one of the worst guys on the floor. hardly made any decisions with the ball, and maybe that’s a good thing, but i thought he was supposed to be stepping up and becoming the floor leader. right? i thought this was his year. just like every year has been. everything said about him here was right, and i would squeeze him out of the rotation entirely if it were up to me, make gordon the backup PG. stuckey was a disaster. outplayed HARD on both ends by arroyo and chalmers. this was truly embarrassing.
    charlie- he sure was trying harder on defense, but he was still no good. he was the same guy offensively as i remember from last year, which is not a good thing. shaky shot selection, hot and cold. he was the second biggest disappointment.
    mcgrady- waste of space, minutes and 1.3 million dollars. at least as far as today went. daye looked so good to me in the open practice and tonight that i can not wait to just cut t-mac out of the rotation entirely or waive him. this was a bad idea. and i’d tell him to prove me wrong and hope for him to step up to the challenge… but rip, tayshaun, daye and gordon proved to everyone watching that we have no shortage of wing scoring. and t-mac is a worse defender than any of them.
    max- too many jumpshots. i know it’s the preseason, and maybe he’s just taking the opportunity to fine tune his stroke, but he wasn’t helping the team with all those jumpers. i would have liked to see more aggression.
    bynum- outplayed stuckey on both ends. looked like his pesky old self on defense, and even though he and gordon seemed to share playmaking responsibilities while they were on the floor together, it was obvious that he was looking to run the team and make plays. it was hard for him to look very good, because once we started making substitutions everything fell right apart. not that i buy this bogus line about an “open competition” (it’s the pistons, after all), but if this guy isn’t starting by the time the season starts i’m going to burn a car.
    it was only one preseason game, so this could change as the preseason rolls along, but based on a very limited sample size, here’s my team:
    bynum, rip, tay, jj and big ben starting. gordon as backup PG (with tay sharing playmaking duties, of course), daye as backup wing, monroe and charlie and max as backup bigs. play jonas at some 3 if you please. trade stuckey before he gets even more exposed. waive t-mac if you can’t trade him for a draft pick. there’s just no way this team is going to be successful with such a big rotation of interchangeable mediocre players.
    i remember a comment by i think blaha when jonas went down. “jonas is a very important piston.” i disagree. i don’t know that there are any important pistons. just a bunch of average ball players who don’t look good together. a hodgepodge of mediocre talent. one guy goes down, there’s a similarly mediocre player to pick up the slack… or whatever the opposite of picking up slack is. this team is nothing but slack. miami was better than us without the big three. cleveland looks better than us. we’re one of the worst teams in the league, easily. 50 losses looks like a lock.

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  • Oct 6, 20103:19 am
    by Vince


    @ Laser

    Agreed, we played good for the first ten minutes, thats about it…

    T-Mac and Villanueva were major dissapointments, and don’t get me started on Stuckey… JJ and Terrico seemed to have picked up from last year’s injury plagued season…

    This isn’t looking good…

    Deal Stuckey, Villanueva, T-mac and Wilcox and maybe they’ll win a couple games…

  • Oct 6, 20108:24 am
    by Patrick Hayes


    Oh Laser, you are incorrigible.
    Listen, the Pistons are going to look pretty sloppy and out of synch while they are playing 15 guys. My guess is only 9 and maybe 10 of these guys are in the regular rotation when the season starts. Honestly, rotations of 10 or more rarely work in the NBA. John Kuester is going to use the first few games to play everyone, and I think as the preseason progresses, you’ll see fewer players/better basketball.
    It doesn’t help matters that Lebron/Bosh looked to be in regular season shape already, which makes sense considering if those guys look remotely bad the media will be all over them. Most teams just don’t look as good as the Heat did in the preseason opener. The Pistons will be better next time out.
    As for McGrady, he’s being eased back in. He played only 8 minutes. McGrady and Gordon just started playing actual full court basketball again when camp opened. It’s going to take them some time to look better (although Gordon had some decent stretches last night).
    The team’s two best frontcourt defenders, Wallace and Jerebko, barely played. They’ll both play significantly more (health permitting) as the preseason progresses.
    There is very little that can be definitively taken away from any team’s preseason opener. This is basically what we know: the Heat are going to be really good and the Pistons have a very unsettled rotation. I think those are things we already knew going in.

  • Oct 6, 20108:26 am
    by Patrick Hayes


    As I said to Laser, McGrady spent the summer resting his knee. He hasn’t played full court ball in a long time, other than the first week or so of camp. He only played 8 minutes last night. It’s going to take longer than 8 minutes to figure out if he can rebound from his injuries and contribute. Way, way too early to make calls like that.

  • Oct 6, 201010:09 am
    by detroitpcb


    Patrick, you fail to see the consistent element from last season (besides injuries): bad coaching. That offense looks exactly like it did last year (though there was better floor reversal of the ball). The defense will be exploited by every guard in the league until they get big body or a shot blocker. And they still have no clue how to play a pick and roll – they obviously have a scheme and assignments but all it seems to produce is confusion. And why doesn’t this team use the pick and roll more on offense themselves?

    Daye needs to see the floor. Monroe needs to see the floor but he has to be paired with a defensive stopper and the only one we have is Ben Wallace so that means Monroe needs to start. Daye and Monroe are the future of this team. To become what he can be in this league, Monroe is going to have to be paired with a dominant physical defender. What we need is obvious. Now, can Joe go out and get one?

    Stuckey looked horrible again. Can we all agree that he is a two? This team now has five twos that need time on the floor either because of talent or contract – Rip, Ben G, T-Mac, Daye, & Stuckey. It has only one point guard and that is Will – and he is a score first point.

    CV looked just like CV of last year – though he is stronger. His offense is unpredictable. His defensive footwork is almost as bad as Chris Wilcox, whom i think has the worst footwork in the league.

    It’s going to be a long year, fellas. And how can Q settle on a short rotation when all of the players he has to choose from are roughly on the same level? And for all you JJ haters – if this kid is out for a while you are going to find out just how much he contributes. Without his activity, lenght, and excellent court awareness your defense is going to go from poor to pitiful.

  • Oct 6, 201010:15 am
    by detroitpcb


    thought this was an interesting quote from Chris Mullins – while relating it to Joe Dumar’s current situation. It is exactly the problem with the current Piston’s roster.
    Mullin praised Walsh’s work in remodeling the Knicks and building around Amar’e Stoudemire. “Any time you get a star player like that, it makes it easier to evaluate what’s around him and what fits around him,” Mullin said. “The toughest thing in the league is if you don’t have that marquee guy, you don’t know what fits around guys. Now they have him and they can make legitimate evaluations.” New York Post

  • Oct 6, 201010:33 am
    by Juice


    Is it just me or does the announcers completely overlook how often LeBron travels with the ball. It is beyond ridiculous.

  • Oct 6, 201010:37 am
    by Patrick Hayes


    I agree mostly, although I would say Jerebko is a bigger part of the future of this team than Daye. You can tell he’s much better in the few minutes he played before leaving with the injury.

  • Oct 6, 201010:39 am
    by Patrick Hayes


    Superstars traveling with the ball is nothing new. The Michael Jordan Third Step has been passed on to the new generation of stars. I think the announcers are just realistic — referees are simply never gonna call traveling on guys like Lebron, who all usually take an extra step on their way to the basket.

  • Oct 6, 201010:56 am
    by detroitpcb



    A future lineup of Daye at the two, JJ at the three, and Monroe at the four would suit me just fine. I love JJ’s game. We all know Joe needs to find another big. Do we all agree that he needs to find a point guard too? Q was praising Stuckey after the game last night for how well he “ran the offense”.

  • Oct 6, 201011:37 am
    by Patrick Hayes


    Unfortunately, Stuckey actually did run the offense decently. But when he runs the slow, boring offense well, it means that he’s not being aggressive, running and attacking the basket, which is when he’s at his best.
    I don’t think they need a point guard necessarily. They just need a playmaker, regardless of position.

  • Oct 6, 20103:06 pm
    by Laser


    @hayes: i might be incorrigible, but that’s no reason to dismiss anything/everything i say. i made a lot of truly wonderful points here, and this season will vindicate me.
    as for the rotation… first off, we looked out of synch the second we went to the bench. it had nothing to do with 15 guys playing. we were 9 or 10 deep when i started to get very worried. and it’s going to be a yeoman’s task to settle on any kind of rotation. i proposed one that looks like our best bet (at the moment), and it excludes t-mac and stuckey. since both of these guys look like ABSOLUTE LOCKS to be in the rotation, no matter how much they suck or how redundant they are, we’ve got a major problem on our hands.
    PCB explained the problem with the rotation in a different way than i did. how are we going to settle on a rotation when so many different guys are equally mediocre and bring only slightly different things to the table. it’s not like you have nine guys who are your clear best players who can be mixed-and-matched in positive ways. you have a hodgepodge of marginally better or worse players.
    just for the sake of conversation, after having watched that joke of a game, what do you think kuester WILL or SHOULD do with this rotation? it looks like jerebko did him a little favor by getting injured. if t-mac had done the same, i’d feel a little better right about now. but right now you have:
    stuckey/bynum, rip/gordon, tayshaun/t-mac/daye, villanueva/monroe/maxiell, wallace/wilcox
    the only position with a clear winner is SF. you’re picking your poison with EVERY OTHER position. big ben is your best C, but he’s limited offensively and his minutes will probably be monitored. so who gets squeezed out? i’m not seeing it. based on the performances of rip, tay, daye and gordon, t-mac has absolutely nothing to offer this team. same for stuckey. bynum, gordon, tayshaun and even vernon hamilton looked infinitely better running the offense. if you can tell me who you think should get squeezed and how the minutes/rotations could work, i’d love to hear it.
    we certainly disagree about daye/jerebko. i think they’ll both be a big part of the team this season, but daye looked great. looked very ready. looks very much like he’s a better option all-around than t-mac.
    @PCB: i could not believe kuester’s praise of stuckey. he was the worst piston on the floor, including vernon hamilton… at least vernon hamilton looked to INITIATE SOME OFFENSE. i’ve never been lower on stuckey in my life than i was last night. TAKE SOME CHANCES, KID! MAKE SOME MISTAKES! i thought he was supposed to be aggressive, taking charge, being the floor leader. he is useless on this team. watch the game again, hayes. he did nothing. he crossed the timeline, gave the ball to a veteran to make a decision and vanished. and while this may have been the “best” plan for the team, now is the time for stuckey to put his money where his mouth has been for THREE STRAIGHT SEASONS.

  • Oct 6, 20103:11 pm
    by Laser


    @hayes: did you watch the game?? stuckey didn’t run the offense. he didn’t run anything! nothing. watch it again. he was a waste of space and skin. 2 of his assists were half-court feeds to cherry-pickers who should get credit for the bucket and the assist, since they’re the ones who created those easy buckets. so in effect, stuck had 3 assists to 2 turns. he didn’t run the offense at all. when the team looked good, tayshaun was running the point. ben wallace can stand at the top of the key dribbling and wait for someone to get open.
    it’s hard to remember if it’s you or feldman who’s known for being glued to stuckey’s jock, but i’ll just assume it’s both. take off the rose colored glasses; the season will be a lot easier to deal with.

  • Oct 6, 20103:29 pm
    by Patrick Hayes


    “I made a lot of truly wonderful points.”
    Haha … Love the slow clap you are giving yourself there.
    It makes no sense for you to be basing who should be in the rotation on one preseason game. It’s silly. McGrady is recovering from the worst injury for a basketball player. Hamilton, Gordon and Bynum all missed significant time due to injury. To expect that those guys won’t be rusty is crazy.
    Right now, Prince and Wallace are sure bets to play significant minutes (I don’t by the “Wallace needs to limit his minutes” theory … 30 a game is fine for him). The rest will work itself out. Maybe McGrady won’t be healthy enough to contribute. Maybe he will. Maybe Gordon beats out Rip for the starting job, or Bynum beats out Stuckey. Ultimately, Kuester is gonna settle on playing 10 guys, and it’s going to take all of the preseason to figure out which players, other than Prince and Wallace, will get the bulk of those minutes.

  • Oct 6, 20103:38 pm
    by Patrick Hayes


    @Laser again:
    Yes, I watched the game. Yes, Stuckey ran the offense. He walked it up court, just like Kuester likes. He didn’t turn it over, just like Kuester likes. And for your nitpicky “two of his passes were to cherry pickers” rant, he also had two good passes in the first that would’ve been assists. On one play, Jerebko was fouled right by the basket on a shot he would’ve made and on the other, Villanueva went up really weakly and had his shot blocked by Joel Anthony.
    He didn’t do anything running the offense that would’ve caused the Pistons to lose the game in and of itself. He was fine. He passed to others, he got out of the way and he had some good feeds when he penetrated. In those respects, yeah, Kuester’s comments make sense.
    What he didn’t do was make wide open jumpers, aggressively attack the basket or look to run. The missing shots part is obviously on him. I’m not sure if the lack of attacking the basket and the lack of a running game is on him or on Kuester for telling him not to. I lean towards Stuckey because when Bynum is in, he tends to play faster.
    I don’t have to take off any glasses. I can deal just fine whether they win 60 games or 6 games and I can provide accurate analysis either way. It is accurate to say that for the most part, Stuckey did what Kuester asks him to do — don’t turn it over, get the ball to the team’s playmakers on the wing. That’s running the offense, even if it is a bad offense.
    I prefer not to use one preseason game to play the Chicken Little game, but hey, that’s your schtick. Screaming loudly that you are going to be vindicated and proven right down the road isn’t an argument. They played bad in this game, and I said as much in the post. But let’s not get carried away with the significance of this game.

  • Oct 6, 20103:59 pm
    by nuetes


    Ahh i’ve been waiting all day to find the time to comment on this. And after all this anticipation my in-depth analysis boils down to Villanueva sucks. Yes. That is all. Also if Mcgrady is cut before the start of the season I won’t even be surprised. I know it’s just a preseason game, and his first with the Pistons, and he’s a walking cripple, but even with all those things considered he just doesn’t have it anymore. Prince – what are the Pistons going to do without him? They almost have to offer him an extension don’t they? Something for less and try to get a good value contract. Trade off some of these contracts because I’d rather keep Prince over Gordon, CV, or Rip.

  • Oct 6, 20104:52 pm
    by Laser


    @hayes: about the chicken little comment, it’s not chicken little if the sky is actually falling and has been for years now with no end in sight.
    about the other comments, we’ll have to agree to disagree on stuckey. you and kuester think he did great. me and probably stuckey and everyone else feel otherwise. he was not a floor leader and hardly “ran” anything at all. he’s been crying wolf about being aggressive, playing faster, being a leader. and i saw none of that.
    and yes it was just one preseason game, but this is the same squad from last year. the only new additions were t-mac (who was invisible) and monroe (who i didn’t complain about). it’s the same sorry team running around, not defending, getting bad shots, missing open looks, looking confused. it’s not like we’re incorporating a bunch of new key players or a new system. some of them may have spent chunks of the offseason injured, but THOSE WERE THE GUYS WHO LOOKED GOOD! i didn’t complain about rip or gordon or tayshaun. i thought all three of them played great. it’s basically everyone else (monroe and daye aside, and bynum was “fine”) who stunk.
    i expected rust. i can forgive rust. last night, the problem wasn’t rust. heck, they didn’t look any better or worse on the whole than the team i watched all last season. they looked rather exactly the same, and i think that’s what was most crushing about last night. i didn’t expect the team to win or to play well, but i was still hugely disappointed. same sorry defense from last year, same disjointed offense. that’s the problem. it was an all-too familiar sight.
    my proposals for who i’d squeeze out of the rotation are based partially on last night, partially on years of watching most of these guys have various levels of success. and i said my team was based on a limited sample size. nothing’s written in stone, we’re paying all these guys, they’ll be around. but some of them can’t play if we want to experience success. as of now i’d make those guys stuckey and t-mac. stuckey based on his entire career and history of promising to take that next step he’ll never ever take because he’s not a leader or a playmaker. and t-mac based more on how rip, tay, gordon and daye played. we don’t need six scoring wing players. you’re better off NOT having that many options if you have 3-4 reliable ones. and those four (along with monroe) showed me a lot last night. i’m even willing to reserve judgment that rip and gordon can’t play together… for now. on account of the decent job gordon did making decisions with the ball.

  • Oct 6, 20104:54 pm
    by Laser


    @nuetes: i thought the exact same thing about tayshaun. god knows what we’ll do. but he’s not getting younger, and the reality is that we have to trade him to improve in other areas. i just hope he keeps this up, maybe makes a long-overdue all-star team and gets us a good return. because we can’t get rid of rip or gordon or cv. sorry.

  • Oct 6, 20107:26 pm
    by jim


    Starters? Bynum, Rip, Prince, Monroe, Wallace? Too many guys trying to play the same position. Charlie V is just a big small forward.  Nobody knows their role and we play horrible yeam defense. We need a big trade. I agree that Stucky, Mcgrady, Wilcox, and Villenueva should go.

  • Oct 7, 20102:44 pm
    by Laser


    also, hayes, one of your bullet points says in bold type: “Rodney Stuckey is not a playmaker.” nobody who pencils someone in as a point guard, let alone a starting point guard, would describe them like that. the primary job of a point guard is to be a playmaker, get people involved, make people better, run the offense. you just said stuckey doesn’t do those things. why is he still on this team, and why are you defending him? the last thing in the world this team needs is an inefficient scoring wing player who needs the ball in his hands.

  • Oct 7, 20103:30 pm
    by Patrick Hayes


    I’m not coaching the Pistons or deciding how I want the offense to run. Personally, yeah, I’d like a playmaker at that spot. The best I can gather from John Kuester is that he wants Stuckey to play the way he plays — slow, not aggressive, pass to the wings, etc. Stuckey played that way much of last season, and he still played big minutes. There’s never really been any rumbling that he could lose the starting job. I have to assume those things mean that Kuester is reasonably happy with what Stuckey does.
    I think Stuckey can be a playmaker, he just isn’t one in this offense, and I don’t think he had a terrible game (other than shooting the ball, which was terrible) in Kuester’s eyes because all Kuester seems to care about with is PG is not turning it over.

  • Oct 7, 20108:09 pm
    by Laser


    i think we’re looking at a situation similar to nepotism. stuckey was the reason joe traded chauncey, he was supposed to be the future of the team. many of us thought stuckey had not shown enough to warrant such faith. we were proven right. to date stuckey has done nothing to prove to anyone that he deserved such faith. but joe dumars is a stubborn man. iverson didn’t work out, he would have been hard-pressed to spend the resulting cap space in a more irresponsible way, the team has been in a free fall… joe just wants to be right about one thing in this whole mess. unfortunately stuckey is incapable of proving joe right. but he’s been given every chance imaginable, so why stop now? he’s probably a very nice guy, maybe even a good basketball player, but he’s the last thing this team needs right now. especially running the point.
    also, not to be TOO argumentative here, but 100% of people want a playmaker at that spot. if you asked kuester or joe about stuckey’s playmaking, they’d say they think he is (or can be) a playmaker. nobody would put someone in the PG spot if they thought otherwise. unless it was iverson maybe, another guy who gets undue credit from his long-suffering admirers.
    anyone who’s happy with stuckey’s career so far is beyond help.

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