Comments on: Contextualizing Austin Daye’s lack of heftiness http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/ Your Go-To Source For Pistons Coverage Sun, 19 May 2013 15:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9825 Dan Feldman Wed, 03 Nov 2010 09:15:03 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9825 <p>Oats, I think you made my argument by acknowledging Daye's college opponents, especially in the WAC, weren't NBA caliber.</p> <p>Prince isn't included because Daye will never have to guard or box out Prince in a game.</p> Oats, I think you made my argument by acknowledging Daye’s college opponents, especially in the WAC, weren’t NBA caliber.

Prince isn’t included because Daye will never have to guard or box out Prince in a game.

]]> By: Dan Feldman http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9824 Dan Feldman Wed, 03 Nov 2010 09:13:09 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9824 <p>Joe, thanks for the tip. It should be fixed.</p> Joe, thanks for the tip. It should be fixed.

]]> By: gmehl1977 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9746 gmehl1977 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 06:07:45 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9746 @Laser I am just playin my man. On a serious note though i was just venting on what could of been (draft wise). @Laser
I am just playin my man. On a serious note though i was just venting on what could of been (draft wise).

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9738 Laser Tue, 02 Nov 2010 03:46:18 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9738 @pcb: getting boxed out by daye means nothing. all the positioning in the world isn't going to help him muscle around guys who've got 50 pounds on him. i'll make a deal with everyone here never to repeat myself around here if you just stop talking about austin daye already. i know there's not much to get excited about, but he has not done one truly positive thing this season. your crush on him is more than grating, it's almost creepy. you've been heaping on him the kind of praise i'd expect from his grandmother. please give it a rest until he does one thing in the regular season that's worth a damn.   @gmehl: give it a rest, buddy. everyone's come around to me in the past few weeks since you've been gone. these days it's only chic to complain about the length of my posts. the only thing more boring and played out than me complaining about the roster composition is people complaining about my complaints.   and anyone who thinks the pistons "should" have won any of these games just isn't being honest. their collapses in games 1 and 3 were surprising even to me, but the pistons earned each and every one of these losses so far. if we're talking about "shoulda's" how about "we never shoulda' been able to build a 20 point lead with ben gordon running an extended series of isolation plays, with a few tayshaun isos mixed in. but the shots fell. the offense looked IDENTICAL throughout the game; the only difference was that the tough shots weren't falling at the end. did we have one easy basket all game against chicago??   and as for this "Laser 2.0" business, i think there's going to be a lot of lasers if joe doesn't shake this roster up at least a little, but preferably a lot. @pcb: getting boxed out by daye means nothing. all the positioning in the world isn’t going to help him muscle around guys who’ve got 50 pounds on him. i’ll make a deal with everyone here never to repeat myself around here if you just stop talking about austin daye already. i know there’s not much to get excited about, but he has not done one truly positive thing this season. your crush on him is more than grating, it’s almost creepy. you’ve been heaping on him the kind of praise i’d expect from his grandmother. please give it a rest until he does one thing in the regular season that’s worth a damn.
 
@gmehl: give it a rest, buddy. everyone’s come around to me in the past few weeks since you’ve been gone. these days it’s only chic to complain about the length of my posts. the only thing more boring and played out than me complaining about the roster composition is people complaining about my complaints.
 
and anyone who thinks the pistons “should” have won any of these games just isn’t being honest. their collapses in games 1 and 3 were surprising even to me, but the pistons earned each and every one of these losses so far. if we’re talking about “shoulda’s” how about “we never shoulda’ been able to build a 20 point lead with ben gordon running an extended series of isolation plays, with a few tayshaun isos mixed in. but the shots fell. the offense looked IDENTICAL throughout the game; the only difference was that the tough shots weren’t falling at the end. did we have one easy basket all game against chicago??
 
and as for this “Laser 2.0″ business, i think there’s going to be a lot of lasers if joe doesn’t shake this roster up at least a little, but preferably a lot.

]]> By: gmehl1977 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9733 gmehl1977 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 02:53:41 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9733 detroitpcb I also like Daye a lot and i think he is going to be a really good player in this league. I am just starting to think with how weak this team is looking at the moment what could have been if Joe had of maybe traded down in the 2009 draft. I know its hindsight and all but we could of had Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair and Jonas Jerebko from that draft. A lineup of: <strong>C</strong>-Ben Wallace <strong>PF</strong>-Taj Gibson <strong>SF</strong>-Tayshaun Prince <strong>SG</strong>-Rip Hamilton <strong>PG</strong>-Rodney Stuckey <strong>Bench (Smalls)</strong>-Ben Gordon, Will Bynum <strong>Bench (Bigs)</strong>-DeJuan Blair, Charlie V, Jason Maxiell, Jonas Jerebko, Greg Monroe, Chris Wilcox   I have added Greg Monroe to the roster but i am sure if we had of drafted DeJuan Blair & Taj Gibson instead of Austin Daye & DaJuan Summers then we would of <strong>NOT</strong> been a lottery team last year. I know there is no point crying about things now but it does hurt a little when you look at what could of been. You guys will have to cut me a little slack because i have had to listen to Laser the whole off season. I just think that Joe needs to not even mention 'Pistons Basketball' when talking about the team that has been assembled because it is completely the opposite. They haven't looked terrible and should definitely be at least 2-1 at the moment but they just don't have that toughness/hustle to eek out games. I would rather watch this team lose and play Pistons basketball then win games with the squad that has played these first 3 games.   I had a feeling at the end of that 3rd quarter, even after CV hit that three at the buzzer that we were going to lose. We have got way to many followers and not enough leaders to finish off those kind of games. By leaders i mean guys that have that killer mentality like Billups. Guys that no when to score or get there team mates involved. Anyways i have vented enough and don't usually post stuff this big but if i didn't get it out then i was gonna exploded. I will follow this team no matter what but if things keep going this way then i am changing my user name to Laser 2.0 detroitpcb
I also like Daye a lot and i think he is going to be a really good player in this league. I am just starting to think with how weak this team is looking at the moment what could have been if Joe had of maybe traded down in the 2009 draft. I know its hindsight and all but we could of had Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair and Jonas Jerebko from that draft. A lineup of:
C-Ben Wallace
PF-Taj Gibson
SF-Tayshaun Prince
SG-Rip Hamilton
PG-Rodney Stuckey
Bench (Smalls)-Ben Gordon, Will Bynum
Bench (Bigs)-DeJuan Blair, Charlie V, Jason Maxiell, Jonas Jerebko, Greg Monroe, Chris Wilcox
 
I have added Greg Monroe to the roster but i am sure if we had of drafted DeJuan Blair & Taj Gibson instead of Austin Daye & DaJuan Summers then we would of NOT been a lottery team last year. I know there is no point crying about things now but it does hurt a little when you look at what could of been. You guys will have to cut me a little slack because i have had to listen to Laser the whole off season. I just think that Joe needs to not even mention ‘Pistons Basketball’ when talking about the team that has been assembled because it is completely the opposite. They haven’t looked terrible and should definitely be at least 2-1 at the moment but they just don’t have that toughness/hustle to eek out games. I would rather watch this team lose and play Pistons basketball then win games with the squad that has played these first 3 games.
 
I had a feeling at the end of that 3rd quarter, even after CV hit that three at the buzzer that we were going to lose. We have got way to many followers and not enough leaders to finish off those kind of games. By leaders i mean guys that have that killer mentality like Billups. Guys that no when to score or get there team mates involved. Anyways i have vented enough and don’t usually post stuff this big but if i didn’t get it out then i was gonna exploded. I will follow this team no matter what but if things keep going this way then i am changing my user name to Laser 2.0

]]> By: detroitpcb http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9727 detroitpcb Mon, 01 Nov 2010 23:13:25 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9727 your comment that Daye will have a hard time rebounding and playing defense strikes me as absurd. He is the only Piston who boxes out, he actually rebounds very well in traffic for how slender he is, and his defense has been ok. what has really been poor is his shooting and that will not continue. and i have said this before - but with his length i think he can play the 2 despite his foot speed. He can challenge three point shots with his length and also use his length to block shots from behind if a 2 blows by him on the dribble. Despite his poor start, this kid is going to be good, and was an excellent draft choice. your comment that Daye will have a hard time rebounding and playing defense strikes me as absurd. He is the only Piston who boxes out, he actually rebounds very well in traffic for how slender he is, and his defense has been ok.

what has really been poor is his shooting and that will not continue.

and i have said this before – but with his length i think he can play the 2 despite his foot speed. He can challenge three point shots with his length and also use his length to block shots from behind if a 2 blows by him on the dribble.

Despite his poor start, this kid is going to be good, and was an excellent draft choice.

]]> By: nuetes http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9725 nuetes Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:53:42 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9725 Yeah I would think they would want to find out if Daye can handle the SF position before the end of the season, or better yet by the trade deadline. A decision has to be made on Prince, and honestly I wouldn't even blame him if he wanted out anyway. He might not even want an extension there's no way to tell. Being stuck with Gordon, Rip, and CV and having Prince walk, and not having Daye or Monroe turn out would spell doom. Yeah I would think they would want to find out if Daye can handle the SF position before the end of the season, or better yet by the trade deadline. A decision has to be made on Prince, and honestly I wouldn’t even blame him if he wanted out anyway. He might not even want an extension there’s no way to tell. Being stuck with Gordon, Rip, and CV and having Prince walk, and not having Daye or Monroe turn out would spell doom.

]]> By: gmehl1977 http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9721 gmehl1977 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:29:30 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9721 @Laser It's impossible to disagree with you cause your exactly right but i would lie if i didn't admit that it is getting very old. This is mainly because you have said the same thing since after the draft. It might be longer because i only signed up to pistonpowered just before then.   Anyways after the way Daye has played to start the season and he was playing the same way at small forward then i would be extending Tayshaun as soon as we get the chance. Either that or Joe might want to press the self destruct button. @Laser
It’s impossible to disagree with you cause your exactly right but i would lie if i didn’t admit that it is getting very old. This is mainly because you have said the same thing since after the draft. It might be longer because i only signed up to pistonpowered just before then.
 
Anyways after the way Daye has played to start the season and he was playing the same way at small forward then i would be extending Tayshaun as soon as we get the chance. Either that or Joe might want to press the self destruct button.

]]> By: Laser http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/10/contextualizing-austin-dayes-lack-of-heftiness/comment-page-1/#comment-9716 Laser Mon, 01 Nov 2010 20:59:08 +0000 http://www.pistonpowered.com/?p=3606#comment-9716 hard to blame rip for his atrocious start (hard to blame anyone except primarily joe and secondarily Q) with this isolation-only offense. guy's been forced to get shots for himself off the dribble most of the time, and we all know that's not his game.   i mean, here you have three premier shooting guards, a premier small forward, and an exciting up-and coming small forward. if each of these five players played different positions, we'd have something worth getting excited about, but here we are starting four of them. it's embarrassing. hard to blame rip for his atrocious start (hard to blame anyone except primarily joe and secondarily Q) with this isolation-only offense. guy’s been forced to get shots for himself off the dribble most of the time, and we all know that’s not his game.
 
i mean, here you have three premier shooting guards, a premier small forward, and an exciting up-and coming small forward. if each of these five players played different positions, we’d have something worth getting excited about, but here we are starting four of them. it’s embarrassing.

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