Comments on: Austin Daye makes his case for a spot in the Detroit Pistons’ rotation

By: Alan

Alan — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:29:02 +0000

@ Vince,
That’s a lineup you’ll have to wait a longtime to see. In general, it looks like we’ll see a lot of small ball this season.

By: Alan

Alan — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 00:03:56 +0000

@Patrick,
I think you’re right. Q does not trust Villanueva to do anything other than score. The problem for Villanueva, is Q and the team needs defense, rebounding, and screen setting at the 4-spot.

These two will never see eye to eye and one of them won’t be here by the end of next season.

By: Laser

Laser — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:00:03 +0000

i’ll start by also echoing the reminder that milwaukee was short three starters and their sixth man. this shouldn’t be ignored. so they were playing pretty short.

also, on the flip side, this wasn’t “the pistons” who won that preseason game. this was much closer to MY pistons than the real pistons. the real pistons have half a dozen shooting guards and bynum coming off the bench to play 15 minutes if he’s LUCKY. it’s a wonder how much better a team can look with a sensible number of shooting guards and a playmaker running the offense. these are not things we can expect in the regular season.

removing any two shooting guards and making will bynum the starter are two of my top priorities for this team. stuckey’s obviously more comfortable off the ball, and it hardly affected his assists. bynum alleviates a need for a “pure” point guard because the dude can make plays. 9 ast in 43 minutes looks good to me, and i think numbers like that are sustainable if we want to win.

i don’t put too much stock in +/- numbers, but there were two very interesting stats tonight. we were a +13 for bynum’s 43 minutes, which means we were a -8 for the nine minutes and change he didn’t play. hm. looks like a career bench player if you ask me, one who should be buried behind a guy whose staunchest supporters admit is not a playmaker. and if you check bynum’s history when he starts and plays big minutes, you’ll see a pattern emerge. since we’re talking about the pistons here, i don’t believe there is any sort of open competition, but if bynum isn’t the starter and daye isn’t the first SF off the bench, nobody will believe this open competition crap.

also summers had an interesting line. his numbers were eye-popping, but he was a -7. by all accounts he had an incredible game, so here’s a good example of when that stat is misleading. he was on the floor during a prolonged defensive collapse, which is on the team, and it was his scoring alone that kept the stones in it.

By: Vince

Vince — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:41:53 +0000

Or since both JJ and Terrico are out, replace them by Prince and Gordon. Though I do think they played with that lineup for a while… hmmm

By: Vince

Vince — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:40:04 +0000

@ Alan Haha thanks! There is only one lineup that we have yet to see that I would love Q to try (though the chance of it happening are extremely slim):

C- Monroe
PF- Daye
SF- Jerebko
SG- White
PG- Bynum

I dunno, maybe a ‘last 3 minute if we’re winning by 30 points, and we don’t have any injuries’ lineup… nonetheless I’d like to see it happen…

By: detroitpcb

detroitpcb — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 02:25:07 +0000

@patrick

I think Daye is real. I think he will be a player that can average 20 points and 8 boards with a couple nice assists and blocks thrown in. Don’t expect it this year because of all the congestion ahead of him at the positions he plays but if he gets consistent minutes – watch out.

And next year he needs to be the player the Pistons build around.

By: gmehl1977

gmehl1977 — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 00:41:28 +0000

@Patrick (from comment with koz)
I agree that Daye should have to earn every minute he gets. I also think by Daye beating out the former scoring champion and at some point a top 10 player in the league for minutes just further instills all the confidence he needs to make the next step into the rotation. Making the rotation is one thing but earning your way into it is another thing all together. The last thing we want is guys just getting minutes due to injuries or because they think they should. I hate to point it out but Stuckey was performing well when he was fighting for minutes. A lot needs to be said for this as it is clear when you aren’t handed something on a silver platter you tend to fight for it more. Same goes for things when guys are in contract years. I also think it wouldn’t be a bad idea if David Stern brought in a rule that stated that the minimum length contract you can sign is for 4 years cause guys just seem to get content with how good they have got it.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:02:54 +0000

@Alan:
I think it speaks to how scared the team is deep down of Charlie Villanueva manning that position. They’re willing to try a guy who weighs 140 pounds at the spot just hoping he can take some minutes from Villanueva.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:00:47 +0000

@nuetes:
I think McGrady isn’t expecting to get a huge amount of playing time early. The team is being very cautious with him, which might be a good thing for Daye. He’ll get minutes early in the season, hopefully play well, and by the time McGrady is healthy, the team can look to release or trade him.
And I did mention in the post that the Bucks played without their best players. I’m not saying get overly excited, but basically, I’m just rooting for them to be interesting to watch this season, and you can’t deny they were entertaining in this game.

By: Patrick Hayes

Patrick Hayes — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 22:57:33 +0000

@PCB:
You know you’re my guy, but Durant and Rose? Dang … I just want a solid 20-25ish minutes a night from Daye for right now.
And you’re right, Monroe won’t be Cousins. But he can still get better and he’ll contribute at some point this season. It will just take him a couple months to get adjusted.