Comments on: Pistons are in the market for a starting point guard

By: Chabvis

Chabvis — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:36:22 +0000

David Lee is going to be making a lot of money. Way more money than we could pay him. There is a reason why we didn’t sign him last season and that is because he is too expensive.
IMO our only options are going either with a young semi-unproven young talented big or getting a veteran using the MLE or via trade. Hopefully we get both some young talent and a vet, but we will not be getting a superstar.

By: al-scorpio

al-scorpio — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 00:33:29 +0000

it is t0tally evident that we need a big man. the point is that no one really wants to give up a big man, especially not for what we have. first things first. I love max but he is another Don Reid and needs to go, he is just too small for his position. Other bigs just shoot right over him. Next, you have to get rid of Kwame, and you all know why. The focus should be on a big, and a low post player. If you can’t get a superstar, grab David Lee who consistantly killed Max all year!

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:40:35 +0000

Woah woah woah!
You want Bynum to start? I love the guy, he’s my #2 behind Jonas… but you gotta take a sec to think. Even when Stuckey was hurt Bynum wasn’t starting, that was good ‘ol Chucky. Bynum plays great off the bench (when he’s healthy) and isn’t starting caliber.
2nd, I would loooove to move Stuckey to Shooting Guard, but there’s no way that’s going to happen unless we get John Wall. (GET RID OF RIP!!!) Also another great person to have a 2 Guard would be Evan Turner, and keep Stuckey at Point.
3rd, Jonas is a great player! and he’s shown us he can start and get DECENT numbers, but he’s not Tayshaun. Keep Tay and have Jonas come off the bench to play with Gordon and Bynum would be great.
4th, we still got Big Ben, who played GREAT this year (compared to our other big men) why sacrifice Experience and Defense to start a Draft Pick (all of which really aren’t that good).
5th, This is where I agree with you, we need a big man. I would Loooove Amare, but that’s not gonna happen. Kwame SUCKS! J-Max is too small, 2 more inches and he’d be the Mac-Daddy. He’s a great player just not starting material. (he plays better off the bench anywhoo). I don’t know what the heck was up with Wilcox, but something either needs to happen with him or he needs to go. Chuck-Vill… There isn’t much to say about he. He can score… when he’s hot. He’s big, but he’s a wuss. We need a man down there.

It should look like this.
1. Stuckey (John Wall)
2. RIP (Stuckey, Turner)
3. Tayshaun
4. Wallace
5. Who the hell really knows?
And off the bench you have;
1. Bynum
2. Gordon
3. Jonas (Day)
4. J-Max, Wilcox, C-Ville
5. Kwame, J-Max (This still up in the air.)

Back to the big men. My dad and I were talking about it the other day, there aren’t THAT many GREAT Big Men; of course there’s Shaq, Howard, Amare, Bynum(Lakers), Perkins, a couple more. But there just aren’t enough to go around the league. It sucks because I would take any of those guys on my team (Except Shaq) but no one wants to get rid of them.
We have a lot of really good Bench Players, but we need to get a couple options to mess around with in the off season. Hopefully we’ll be in the playoffs for the ’10-’11 season.

By: Chabvis

Chabvis — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:39:55 +0000

“we seriously need to shed a shooting guard to balance our minutes out”
This goes without saying, I meant set in that we are not bringing in anybody to play there.
Why is Stuckey not adequate at PG? How does he “run one of the most atrocious offenses”? I always hear these phrases with no explanation, it is easy to throw phrases like this out. Someone please enlighten me as why Stuckey is such a bad PG.
Our best big this year was Ben Wallace….age 35. Jason Maxiell started a significant amount of games at CENTER. If those do not constitute a very very big problem then nothing does.

By: Jubilee

Jubilee — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:02:36 +0000

stuckey is far from “adequate” at point guard. he runs one of the most atrocious offenses i’ve ever seen in the NBA. we may have a desperate need for frontcourt help, but our need at point guard isn’t far behind. and we’re not “set” at shooting guard either; we seriously need to shed a shooting guard to balance our minutes out. the main issue is that we have three (3) avenues to improve the team: trade, draft and MLE. use two of those options to improve the frontcourt, which i agree is the greater priority (though not by nearly as much as you seem to think) and use the third to land a point guard worth a damn.

By: Chabvis

Chabvis — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 00:19:21 +0000

I agree that PG is not nearly as important as a QB is to a football team, but it is hard to get away with having a mediocre player unless you have a superstar. Phil Jackson has never had a great PG, but he has had MJ and Pippen, Kobe and Shaq, and then Kobe, Gasol and Co. When you have two superstars of that quality you can get away with not having a great PG (although the Lakers are not really getting away with it in these playoffs so far).
We do not have a superstar play though. That is the problem. Stuckey could turn out to be a very good player, but he will never be a superstar. Barring a lucky hop into the top-3 in the lottery, we most likely will not come close to getting a superstar in this draft either. So we have to have very good players at every position and right now we are not close to being there. For the time being I think that we are good enough at SG with Gordon-Hamilton and PG with Stuckey-Bynum, and we have some young talent at SF with Jonas-Daye-Summers to go with the ever solid Tayshaun. But that is it. Everything else is wide open. That is why I feel like we need to move for a big right now.
If we get better in the short term, it will help us more in the long term then simply going all out to get better in the long term. If that makes sense. So right now our top needs are two quality bigs, I don’t care how we get them (hopefully we can get at least one from the draft and then move Tayshaun or Rip or a package of the two to get another), but that is what we should be focusing on.
If somebody wants to make us an offer that involves getting a young PG then I would listen, but I would not be as worried about knocking on people’s doors about PGs as I would about bigs.

By: nuetes

nuetes — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:57:52 +0000

pg’s aren’t as valuable as qb’s. you don’t even need a pg to win a championship. has phil jackson ever had a pg? you need good players simple as that it doesn’t matter what position they play. the pistons need better players, anywhere, everywhere. if its a pg so be it. if its a power forward, a sg, i don’t care where. just get better players because the ones they have aren’t good enough.

By: Chabvis

Chabvis — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 15:31:52 +0000

That is what does not make sense to me Tony. If we wanted a PG, which we apparently do now why did we not draft one last year? The PGs that were on the board when we drafted were: Jrue Holiday, Ty Lawson, Jeff Teague, Eric Maynor, Darren Collison, Rodrigue Beaubois. It doesn’t make any sense at all. I think every one of those players is going to have a good career. To me this is what makes the whole Joe D going after a PG make no sense.
1. Will Bynum had a really good season, and we can easily re-sign him. Maybe Joe D doesn’t see him as a starting PG, thats fair I agree, but do we really need to re-sign Bynum then if we can shift Stuckey to the point when our “new starter” needs a break.
2. If Joe D thought we needed a PG last year’s draft was the time to get one. This season could not have suddenly made him think, “Hmmm now we need a PG,” because two of our best players this year were Bynum and Stuckey.
If we try to trade for one of these PGs now the price is going to be more then the 15th pick in last years draft. Although I think that we need a PG of the future, I am going to be very disappointed when Joe D inevitably makes some moves to acquire this PG, because there were plenty there for the taking in last years draft. I am happy with Austin Daye, but I would prefer to have our long term solution at PG if we are going to go out and try to trade for him anyways.

By: Tony

Tony — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 06:43:02 +0000

Who’s gonna feed this low post scoring threat we so desperately need? PG’s are as important to a basketball team as a QB is to a football team and they are few and far between and why no one is as angry as I am on why Dumars passed on getting one in the deepest draft for PG’s last year is beyond me!

By: terry

terry — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:11:14 +0000

It would be idiotic to get a point guard right now. The combination of Stuckey and Bynum is formidable. The priority going forward has to be big men and by big men I mean centers. The pistons absolutely can not rely on old man ( as much as I love him) Wallace to carry the load at center. Don’t forget that Stuck had 10 assist in the 3rd quarter against the Cavs before he went down and when the team was healthy his assist consistently went up, and Will Bynum Tied Zeke for the most assist in piston history. GO BIG!