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	<title>Comments on: John Hollinger&#8217;s Joe Dumars bashing goes a little too far</title>
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		<title>By: sebastien3k</title>
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		<dc:creator>sebastien3k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john hollinger is a clown.. i couldnt take anymore of his hooplah..
http://rofljock.com/sports-analyst-john-hollingers-articles-to-be-converted-onto-espn-comedy-section/
 
lots of rofl&#039;ing ensues..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john hollinger is a clown.. i couldnt take anymore of his hooplah..<br />
<a href="http://rofljock.com/sports-analyst-john-hollingers-articles-to-be-converted-onto-espn-comedy-section/" rel="nofollow">http://rofljock.com/sports-analyst-john-hollingers-articles-to-be-converted-onto-espn-comedy-section/</a><br />
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lots of rofl&#8217;ing ensues..</p>
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		<title>By: pistons life</title>
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		<dc:creator>pistons life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look i could fix the pistons myself not that hard, first i commend Joe D for all that he has done for our great city of Detroit, but I think some stupidity has run off on him.First off Joe D if you such a good talent judge what the hell is Kwame Brown still in the Nba. look Dumars i could hoop better than that 7 foot waste of space. Kwame is the worst player to ever put on an nba uniform and i cant even cheer for the pistons when they have him on the team. and he has the nerve to complain about PT  &quot;You Suck Bro&#039; retire&quot; anyways. trade hmm let see i would grab T-mac so fast he would have been playing already and maybe we could be a .500 team and he has 22 million dollars comming of the books come on man its a business right idk any smart businessmen that would jump at that idea. last thing we need to start Maxiell he been on are team longer than most palyers and has the most potential out of any big we have why is he not getting 30 min a night just the dumbmest move i have ever seen maybe its the coach. hmmm Plip Saunders Was the man and we lost him what a joke. seems like ever business in detroit is just doomed because people do not think at alllllllll.  MICHIGAN DESERVES BETTER PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look i could fix the pistons myself not that hard, first i commend Joe D for all that he has done for our great city of Detroit, but I think some stupidity has run off on him.First off Joe D if you such a good talent judge what the hell is Kwame Brown still in the Nba. look Dumars i could hoop better than that 7 foot waste of space. Kwame is the worst player to ever put on an nba uniform and i cant even cheer for the pistons when they have him on the team. and he has the nerve to complain about PT  &#8220;You Suck Bro&#8217; retire&#8221; anyways. trade hmm let see i would grab T-mac so fast he would have been playing already and maybe we could be a .500 team and he has 22 million dollars comming of the books come on man its a business right idk any smart businessmen that would jump at that idea. last thing we need to start Maxiell he been on are team longer than most palyers and has the most potential out of any big we have why is he not getting 30 min a night just the dumbmest move i have ever seen maybe its the coach. hmmm Plip Saunders Was the man and we lost him what a joke. seems like ever business in detroit is just doomed because people do not think at alllllllll.  MICHIGAN DESERVES BETTER PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES</p>
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		<title>By: Ponyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ponyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hollinger&#039;s writing style is overrated.  If he hasn&#039;t backpedaled his fair share of times it&#039;s only because he refuses to admit he was wrong.  This is just another example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hollinger&#8217;s writing style is overrated.  If he hasn&#8217;t backpedaled his fair share of times it&#8217;s only because he refuses to admit he was wrong.  This is just another example.</p>
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		<title>By: PistonsNationBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pistons go for 3 Vs. Kings</title>
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		<dc:creator>PistonsNationBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pistons go for 3 Vs. Kings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] series with Kings &#8230; Kings allow 105.9 ppg &#8230; Prince not on US National team &#8230; John Hollinger takes liberties on Joe D [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dan j</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe D has not done that poor of a job.  He has a team that has too many players at the same position. Stuckey is a shooting guard not a point. I think Charlie V. could do better as a SF. So you get rid of a SF/SG and get a C and  a true PG thru trades and the draft and the Pistons are alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe D has not done that poor of a job.  He has a team that has too many players at the same position. Stuckey is a shooting guard not a point. I think Charlie V. could do better as a SF. So you get rid of a SF/SG and get a C and  a true PG thru trades and the draft and the Pistons are alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of you make good points, but I do believe things can turn out positively simply by trading away Tay and Rip. The rest of the team is built to run and use dribble penetration by Stuckey and kickouts to what could be an impressive group of shooters once everyone gets used to playing with one another so the roles will be defined. A lot of fans want Maxiell traded, and he is a very good role player that brings some of the same qualities as Big Ben. The only person I thought was a mistake was CV. He just always seemed soft to me, even at UConn. Daye and Summers are unknown, but I love Jerebko. Top 5 PF in 5 yrs. Get a shot blocking, rebounding young center via trade or the draft, and playoff are a realistic goal next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of you make good points, but I do believe things can turn out positively simply by trading away Tay and Rip. The rest of the team is built to run and use dribble penetration by Stuckey and kickouts to what could be an impressive group of shooters once everyone gets used to playing with one another so the roles will be defined. A lot of fans want Maxiell traded, and he is a very good role player that brings some of the same qualities as Big Ben. The only person I thought was a mistake was CV. He just always seemed soft to me, even at UConn. Daye and Summers are unknown, but I love Jerebko. Top 5 PF in 5 yrs. Get a shot blocking, rebounding young center via trade or the draft, and playoff are a realistic goal next year.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rake</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both John and Dan have valid points, but as we sit here today, I would have to side with Mr. Hollinger.  The FA signings in particular have been bad, CV31 is awful, while BG has been bad luck.  The trade of Billups haunts the Pistons and that is a simple fact.  For Dan to suggest that we couldnt have had the same CB hat Denver has is ridiculous and speculative. As far as I could tell, he was the best Piston when he was here, and is the key Nugget now, (most would say Melo is the best, but alas, where was he without Chauncey?)  Pistons are an absolute mess, and I wouldnt call there roster young talent, more young unknowns and some decent players (like Stuckey and BG).  No stars to be found.  Too bad, but there run sure was fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both John and Dan have valid points, but as we sit here today, I would have to side with Mr. Hollinger.  The FA signings in particular have been bad, CV31 is awful, while BG has been bad luck.  The trade of Billups haunts the Pistons and that is a simple fact.  For Dan to suggest that we couldnt have had the same CB hat Denver has is ridiculous and speculative. As far as I could tell, he was the best Piston when he was here, and is the key Nugget now, (most would say Melo is the best, but alas, where was he without Chauncey?)  Pistons are an absolute mess, and I wouldnt call there roster young talent, more young unknowns and some decent players (like Stuckey and BG).  No stars to be found.  Too bad, but there run sure was fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His blog was just another example of kicking the Pistons when they are down.  ESPN analysts simply make it a point to give the Pistons and Detroit negative press.  Anyone that really follows the game can point out the flaws in this blog just as Feldman does.  But to the casual NBA fan reading this on ESPN, they get another reason to look down at the Pistons organization.  It&#039;s a shame.  They always bring up selecting Darko too.  Except when they bring it up, they mention how dumb of a pick Dumars made but neglect to mention he was number two on everyone else&#039;s draft board.  When the Pistons were winning all those years, they were ridiculed if they lost, and sometimes bashed even more when they won because they were &quot;expected&quot; to win but didn&#039;t win by enough.  A few weeks back, the Pistons were playing in one of three games that night and pulled out the victory.  The results of the other two games were put under the headling articles section but no mention of Detroit.  Two nights later the Pistons lose on a day when 11 games were played and they were listed as the second story.  Why?  To simply highlight that the Pistons are losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His blog was just another example of kicking the Pistons when they are down.  ESPN analysts simply make it a point to give the Pistons and Detroit negative press.  Anyone that really follows the game can point out the flaws in this blog just as Feldman does.  But to the casual NBA fan reading this on ESPN, they get another reason to look down at the Pistons organization.  It&#8217;s a shame.  They always bring up selecting Darko too.  Except when they bring it up, they mention how dumb of a pick Dumars made but neglect to mention he was number two on everyone else&#8217;s draft board.  When the Pistons were winning all those years, they were ridiculed if they lost, and sometimes bashed even more when they won because they were &#8220;expected&#8221; to win but didn&#8217;t win by enough.  A few weeks back, the Pistons were playing in one of three games that night and pulled out the victory.  The results of the other two games were put under the headling articles section but no mention of Detroit.  Two nights later the Pistons lose on a day when 11 games were played and they were listed as the second story.  Why?  To simply highlight that the Pistons are losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind, Xero, that the Pistons have missed 110 man-games due to injury this season.  During &#039;the streak&#039;, the Pistons never lost more than 30 for the ENTIRE season.  When you&#039;re a team without a superstar, losing a starter for more than 10 games is rough.
It&#039;s hard to prove anything if you can&#039;t get your best players on the floor.
We&#039;re seeing the ugly side of building without a superstar.  Injuries can wreck any team, but it hurts more when you don&#039;t have a Kobe or LeBron or Howard to keep the ship afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind, Xero, that the Pistons have missed 110 man-games due to injury this season.  During &#8216;the streak&#8217;, the Pistons never lost more than 30 for the ENTIRE season.  When you&#8217;re a team without a superstar, losing a starter for more than 10 games is rough.<br />
It&#8217;s hard to prove anything if you can&#8217;t get your best players on the floor.<br />
We&#8217;re seeing the ugly side of building without a superstar.  Injuries can wreck any team, but it hurts more when you don&#8217;t have a Kobe or LeBron or Howard to keep the ship afloat.</p>
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		<title>By: xerowattbulb</title>
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		<dc:creator>xerowattbulb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the only real mistake that Joe Dumars has made is that he built the core of the team of the last decade by chasing down players that had something to prove and were team first guys.  Since assembling that core, he&#039;s gotten away from that approach more and more.  Ben Gordon and Charlie V have nothing to prove.  I really think bringing them in wasn&#039;t a good step forward.  I think bringing in players like Bynum and drafting strong is a better way to build the team.  He signed Billups and traded for Rip and Ben Wallace and Rasheed and drafted Prince, and later signed Mcdyess.  It&#039;s a better approach then spending so much money on Gordon and Charlie V, because now it&#039;s hard to fix the mistake when that much money is involved.  They signed Charlie V, and he&#039;s not even starting, and to hear the coach talk about it, he&#039;d rather have Jerebko start anyway.  It&#039;s a mess, but Hollinger is wrong if he thinks that even this version of the Pistons would have a MUCH better record had they been healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the only real mistake that Joe Dumars has made is that he built the core of the team of the last decade by chasing down players that had something to prove and were team first guys.  Since assembling that core, he&#8217;s gotten away from that approach more and more.  Ben Gordon and Charlie V have nothing to prove.  I really think bringing them in wasn&#8217;t a good step forward.  I think bringing in players like Bynum and drafting strong is a better way to build the team.  He signed Billups and traded for Rip and Ben Wallace and Rasheed and drafted Prince, and later signed Mcdyess.  It&#8217;s a better approach then spending so much money on Gordon and Charlie V, because now it&#8217;s hard to fix the mistake when that much money is involved.  They signed Charlie V, and he&#8217;s not even starting, and to hear the coach talk about it, he&#8217;d rather have Jerebko start anyway.  It&#8217;s a mess, but Hollinger is wrong if he thinks that even this version of the Pistons would have a MUCH better record had they been healthy.</p>
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