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Friday Trade Idea: Bring David West to the Detroit Pistons

This is the first post in a new weekly series. Every Friday, I’ll analyze a potential Pistons trade. It might be a rumor, a deal I completely made up blindly (like this one) or one you suggest (e-mail me at danfeld11@gmail.com or leave a proposal in the comments).

Trade

Pistons receive:

  • David West (17.3 points, 7.4 rebounds , 2.4 assists, 0.7 blocks, 0.8 steals)
  • Ike Diogu (0.0 points, 0.0 rebounds , 0.0 assists, 0.0 blocks, 0.0 steals)
  • Sean Marks (1.0 points, 4.0 rebounds , 0.4 assists, 0.4 blocks, 0.0 steals)

Hornets receive:

  • Kwame Brown (3.8 points, 3.8 rebounds , 0.6 assists, 0.1 blocks, 0.3 steals)
  • Chris Wilcox (4.2 points, 3.5 rebounds , 0.3 assists, 0.5 blocks, 0.3 steals)
  • DaJuan Summers (2.7 points, 1.0 rebounds , 0.3 assists, 0.8 blocks, 1.0 steals)
  • Detroit’s first-round pick (top-20 protected this season, lottery-protected afterward)

Salaries

Pistons receive:

Player 2009/10 2010/11 2011/12
David West $9,075,000 $8,287,500 $7,525,000
Sean Marks $1,187,686 $0 $0
Ike Diogu $884,881 $0 $0
TOTALS: $11,147,567 $8,287,500 $7,525,000

Hornets receive:

Player 2009/10 2010/11 2011/12
Kwame Brown $4,100,000 $0 $0
Chris Wilcox $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $0
DaJuan Summers $457,588 $457,588 $0
TOTALS: $7,557,588 $3,457,588 $0

Player option

Team option

Pistons’ perspective

I realize this trade doesn’t look great for the Hornets. But it’s based on a few assumptions.

1. The Hornets can’t find takers for Peja Stojakovic, Morris Peterson or James Posey.

2. New Orleans becomes desperate to shed salary this year. That means West has to go.

3. Although the demand would increase greatly for him next year, West doesn’t draw a lot of interest because teams want to save their cap space for this summer.

The deal would save the Hornets $3,268,406 this season in salary (prorated to the end of the year). And they’d save that total amount in luxury tax payments.

They’d also save $8,287,500 next year if Wilcox declines his option and the Hornets don’t pick up Summers’ option. Wilcox could make $3 million next season.

I also think Wilcox would be a good fit with the Hornets, especially because of his ability to receive Chris Paul’s alley-oops. It’s not likely, but it’s reasonable Wilcox could have value at $3 million next year.

For the Pistons, I think this trade is a pretty clear win.

West could help the Pistons get into the playoffs this year, providing the inside scoring they sorely lack. And at 29, he’s young enough to rebuild with.

With or without this trade – barring another deal – the Pistons won’t have cap room this summer. But this deal would set the Pistons up nicely for the next summer.

They’d have only about $37 million committed to salary (assuming David West opts out). Tayshaun Prince, Rodney Stuckey and West would all be free agents. In all likelihood, Detroit would try to re-sign all three. But if something went awry in the plan, the Pistons could let them walk and have the flexibility to go a different direction.

The Pistons are in a position to take on salary right now. They’re one of the few teams in the league not saving cap room for the summer that has a relatively low payroll. The questions are whether they take advantage of their position and how desperate other teams really are.

Hornets’ perspective

For each trade, I will seek the analysis of the other team’s TrueHoop Network blogger.

Ryan Schwan of Hornets247:

“Nothing is outside the realm of possibility, but there are two things that would have to occur for the Hornets to even consider trading David West.

1. They’d have to be unable to bribe a team like the Nets, OKC, or Memphis to take on Hilton Armstrong and his expiring 2.8 Mil contract + a cash/pick sweetener. This would seem to be their preferred method of cutting salary.

2. They’d have to really fall apart from here to the All-star break. The Hornets are absolutely serious about keeping together the team as long as it can realistically reach the playoffs. The team has also been clicking of late as the they have finally adjusted to having five new rotation players. (And compensating for having Paul miss nine games)

Despite the over-reporting of the Hornets financial woes, that isn’t actually the case. Yes, the Hornets have the lowest ticket price in the league and are also in a small market, but their per game revenue is in the middle ten of the league, and their corporate endorsements haven’t really been impacted by the bad economy. Sure, they are willing to sacrifice players like Rasual Butler – and Devin Brown – for Tax relief, but those players are marginal rotation players at best.

Now – if the team collapses between here and February, then I’d expect to see every player not named Chris Paul put on the trading block. That said, I’m not sure the package you list, which gives the Hornets nothing at all useful except for space under the Luxury Tax line (not even cap space) would entice the Hornets to give up a two-time all-star who is essentially an 8 million dollar expiring contract next year. (He’s bound to opt out of his third year.)”

My response

Only one team, the Grizzlies, could absorb Armstrong’s contract without sending a player back. And even if Memphis made that deal, New Orleans wouldn’t save as much this year and wouldn’t save any money next year.

Verdict

The Pistons would do it. But the Hornets probably pass today – any maybe forever.

17 Comments

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  • Jan 8, 20108:23 am
    by max

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    Are you serious?Why should we give up a Draft Pick for a player like David West.Come on,without Chris Paul he is not even in reach of being an All-Star.Did you forget that our second biggest Free agent aqusition of th summer plays the same Position?(PF)

  • Jan 8, 20108:48 am
    by Shawn

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    three team trade Det, LAC, and N.O.  Pistons send Prince to the Clippers and Wilcox and Brown to the Hornets.  Pistons receive Marcus Camby from the Clippers and David West from the Hornets.  LA frees up minutes for Griffin and Kayman and get a needed SF.  New Orleans dumps West contract for Wilcox and Browns expiring contracts plus save an extra 2mil.  Pistons depth as follows:
    PG – Stuckey, Bynum, Atkins
    SG – Hamilton, Gordon
    SF – Jerebko, Daye, Summers
    PF – West, Villannueva, Maxiell
    C – Wallace, Camby

  • Jan 8, 20101:08 pm
    by Marcus Taylor

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    Trade with Wizards: Bynum, Wallace, Rip, and Wilcox for C Haywood, C McGee, PG James, and SG Young. Not sure how many years left on James’s contract, but should be able to re-sign Haywood and get two good young talented guys.  Wash gets a dynamic young PG and a good vet in Rip and all are solid citizens to help rebuild their image. Also Rip and Wallace were for Wizards, good PR move. Possibly makes them a good candidate for as high as a 4 or 5 seed for playoffs.

    • Jan 26, 201011:13 am
      by T-rav

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      I would not even consider trading Ben Wallace. He’s our best player and makes 2nd round pick money.

  • Jan 8, 20101:56 pm
    by brgulker

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    Love the idea behind this series of posts. Look forward to reading them.

  • Jan 8, 20101:56 pm
    by brgulker

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    Did you forget that our second biggest Free agent aqusition of th summer plays the same Position?(PF)
     
    Yeah, and how’s that working out?

    • Jan 9, 20105:52 pm
      by poisonspit13

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      riiiight, so lets ignore the fact that CV was recently sidelined with a broken nose and is now playing through plantar fasciitis. did you forget how well he was playing before those injuries?

      this trade itself is pretty laughable, but the suggested moves afterwards are just downright stupid. let stuckey walk after his rookie contract runs out? resign tayshaun?

      1) west would NOT push this team into the playoffs.
      2) …even if he did, why would we want to be a fringe capped-out playoff team when we have a shot at landing a stud in the lottery?

      what the pistons should be focused on doing is finding buyers for rip and tay’s albatross contracts, not trading their small contracts for an older player who does nothing to solve their current cap situation.

  • Jan 8, 20104:22 pm
    by Herb Wright

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    Of course “West doesn’t draw a lot of interest because teams want to save their cap space for this summer.” and that should be Detroits stand on the subject IF they were as smart as the other teams. Im completely ok with givng up a pick for a “good player” because lets face it the past has shown what Joe Dumars can do with an early pick (Darko ring a bell?), but David West???? REALLY??? You think hes the answer to our problem? What about Chris Bosch??? Or what about being smart FOR ONCE and saving some room for the free agency “flood” this summer like all the other intelligent franchises’. Which is what they said they were going to do last year. Or how about we just run Joe Dumars out of their and find someone competent enough to run our organization. . . .

    • Jan 9, 201011:19 am
      by brgulker

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      I don’t recall Joe ever saying anything about saving money or the summer of 2010. In fact, I remember just the opposite. Joe said that he wouldn’t sit on his money.

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  • Jan 8, 20106:57 pm
    by Scott

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    you could do one of these about the warriors.  actually, you could probably do about 7 of these about the warriors.
     

  • I think Wilcox would be a great pick for the Hornets.

  • Jan 11, 20105:48 pm
    by Bryant

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    Send Max and Kwame (Or Max, Chucky, and Wilcox) for Okafor instead… Kwame’s  (Or Chucky’s) expiring contract eases their finances and Max (Or Wilcox) can be good recipients of CP3′s lobs.
    Heard that Big Al is being shopped around by Minny… Send ‘em Kwame, Max, and Chucky… Those two bigs will alow Kevin Love to be the focal point of their post game as they should complement him well with rebounding and D.

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  • Feb 1, 201011:34 am
    by Steve Williams

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    Gilbert Areanas is a great move for us  right now because we could figure out a way to dump rip and ben gordons contracts onto them they have dead money so they will give him away and now is the time to strike because they just want him outta there we could dump multiple contracts on them and maybe even have them pay some of his contract it saves money this year and we could set it up so we could free up enough money to sign a superstar next year aka bosh amare you could convince them to come by having a lottery pick next year and another superstar in areanas he can still put  up 25 a night and this year off will get his mind right and make him healthy new scene at worst you figure out a way to dump a bunch of our dead contracts on them and if you think they’ll never get rid of ben Gordon so early they need to wake up Gordon has been nothing for us this healthy or not hes not worth the contract if we want a championship hes not the answer not saying gilbert is but he def gives us a chance to hit the jackpot just like sheed ideally proj 2010 lineup
                                    Stuckey   Areanas    tayshun   lotto pick    bosh or amare      that’s a team that can win a championship

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