Comments on: Didn’t like the Ben Gordon and and Charlie Villanueva signings? Joe Dumars inadvertently explains why you’re right

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:46:12 +0000

DJ, Gordon and Villanueva being his third and fourth options makes sense given his comments. But who would have been his No. 1 and No. 2 choices?

I'd say Ben Gordon can take over at the end of games. And Ben Wallace is a defensive stopper.

What's wrong with having versatile players?

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:41:18 +0000

The Rake, I think you’re right that the talent doesn’t mix. But how do we know? They haven’t played together yet.

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:38:08 +0000

Marcus, I don’t think finding players who were a perfect fit was Dumars’ priority last summer. I think it was just adding talent, and I’m OK with that. A lot can change between now and when the Pistons are ready to contend. Get as many assets as you can, and adjust later.

As for the trade, I don’t think the Wizards want to add Hamilton’s long-term contract — especially when they’re giving expiring contracts and a young center who’s paid very little. Also, I don’t think the Pistons will trade Wallace without his consent (barring an extraordinary offer). This trade isn’t extraordinary, and I doubt Wallace wants any part of the mess in Washington.

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:30:18 +0000

Kyle, you have to be a good GM to have a chance to make so many bad moves. GMs who only make a couple bad moves are fired before they can make another. So, Dumars has made a lot of great decisions to make up for his mistakes.

By: Dan Feldman

Dan Feldman — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:16:04 +0000

Well, he did the same thing with Chauncey Billups, and that obviously worked out well. If you think you have a good deal, you have to lock it in before another team drives up the price.

By: DJ

DJ — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:04:07 +0000

Joe took his 3rd & 4th options. He made a mistake & I think he realizes that. I am sure his plan was to remove Tay or Rip or both for a high impact player before the trade deadline, but with both hurting, no one was biting. I am sure both players may have milked those injuries. CV was a great pick up, no he is not Sheed, not too many players are, but what he is, is a guy who can take the other teams big out of the paint. He spreads the floor. Signing BG was decent only because of what he can do off of the bench, but we already have Will Bynum & Stuckey who also create their own shots. What we need to do is package some of our combo people. He tried to build a team of combo players. Like Suck & BG plays both G spots. Rip & Daye play the 2/3, Tay, JJ, & Summers play the 3/4 & Max, Big Ben, CV, Wilcox & Brown all play the 4/5 depending on match ups. We have no alstars, no one to take over at the end of games, no low bost presense, no defensive stoppers, no identity. We have a team full of role players with upside. We’re not going to when as is.

By: The Rake

The Rake — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:33:16 +0000

I was hesitant with both signings at the time, but with the logic that they toss AI and Sheed to the curb for Gordon and Villanueva sounded good to me. People get too focused on how much people are making. Everyone in the league is overpaid. Look at the player and their production only, makes it easier on us all. That being said, Charlie V sucks and Gordon gets an incomplete right now. The Pistons simply dont have a the right mix of talent on this team to be any good with the current roster. That is why someone from the Rip, Tay, CV, Stuckey or Gordon camp HAS TO GO, and perhaps two of those.

By: Marcus Taylor

Marcus Taylor — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:46:38 +0000

I thought signing Gordon was a dent move, but Charlie V. wasn’t a good fit with the rest of the players around him. With a defensive presence inside and a penetrating PG he would fit fine, but it would also need to be an uptempo team. With the signing of Gordon, I thought for sure Rip would be traded for an athletic defensive presence in the paint. If Bynum is healthy prior to trade deadline, Bynum, B. Wallace, and Rip to the Wizards for Haywood, McGee, and James would help both teams. Haywood shouldn’t be too hard to re-sign next year, McGee has a ton of potential. Get a young combo guard in a trade for Tayshaun, and this could be a team with potential.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:31:21 +0000

joe was like a lonely boy before prom. ready to throw himself and his money at the first person to bat their eye lashes at him. villenueva makes a little sense considering we need a post threat, but the gordon signing baffled and continues to baffle me. he may be a better three shooter than rip, but he’s worse and virtually everything else related to basketball.
i hate to say it, but the last few years have seriously damaged my view of dumars as a gm. how many gm’s have made three decisions as terrible as darko, ai and mciafi?

By: brgulker

brgulker — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:20:54 +0000

Joe blew a big wad fast. Sounds like a personal problem, if you ask me.